Heaven & the Resurrection

[JehovahsWitness]

Many believe that the righteous men and women from bible times such as Abraham, died and went to heaven.

If that is the case for you, how do you reconcile this with the idea of a future resurrection on "the last day"? What do you think this refers to.

JOHN 11: 24
Martha answered, "I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day."

[Talishi]

Many believe that the righteous men and women from bible times such as Abraham, died and went to heaven.

If that is the case for you, how do you reconcile this with the idea of a future resurrection on "the last day"?

Jesus affirmed that Abraham was in heaven in his teaching of Luke 16, and also when he said God was the God of Abraham in an argument with the Pharisees that God was god of the living, not the dead.

[JehovahsWitness]

Many believe that the righteous men and women from bible times such as Abraham, died and went to heaven.

If that is the case for you, how do you reconcile this with the idea of a future resurrection on "the last day"?

Jesus affirmed that Abraham was in heaven in his teaching of Luke 16, and also when he said God was the God of Abraham in an argument with the Pharisees that God was god of the living, not the dead.

Interesting point of view. Do you feel inclined to answer the question in the OP?

How do you reconcile this with the idea of a future resurrection on "the last day"? What in your opinion, is this expression referring to?

[onewithhim]

Many believe that the righteous men and women from bible times such as Abraham, died and went to heaven.

If that is the case for you, how do you reconcile this with the idea of a future resurrection on "the last day"?

Jesus affirmed that Abraham was in heaven in his teaching of Luke 16, and also when he said God was the God of Abraham in an argument with the Pharisees that God was god of the living, not the dead.

Interesting point of view. Do you feel inclined to answer the question in the OP?

How do you reconcile this with the idea of a future resurrection on "the last day"? What in your opinion, is this expression referring to?

I guess Talishi got stumped.

I would've loved to see her answer to your excellent question. Actually, I would really like to see anybody's answer. Maybe folks just don't know what to say.

[marco]

Many believe that the righteous men and women from bible times such as Abraham, died and went to heaven.

If that is the case for you, how do you reconcile this with the idea of a future resurrection on "the last day"? What do you think this refers to.

JOHN 11: 24
Martha answered, "I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day."

It is easily reconciled. When someone dies their soul goes to heaven (or elsewhere) and at the Resurrection soul and body are reunited.

We needn't discuss whether a human is body and soul, since I am aware a relatively small group of people insist this is not so, by taking a special interpretation of a verse. Given there seems to be a dilemma for those who don't accept soul and body, the verse is an indication that they should alter their viewpoint. Meanwhile, most believers would see no problem at all.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 4 by onewithhim]

Yes, my questions are deliberately straight forward so people can see whether or not their rationale is logical. I would still be interested in input but evidently that is not to be.


JW

[Yahu]

Many believe that the righteous men and women from bible times such as Abraham, died and went to heaven.

If that is the case for you, how do you reconcile this with the idea of a future resurrection on "the last day"? What do you think this refers to.

JOHN 11: 24
Martha answered, "I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day."

There is a difference between a spirit in heaven and a physical resurrected glorified body.

[Checkpoint]

Many believe that the righteous men and women from bible times such as Abraham, died and went to heaven.

If that is the case for you, how do you reconcile this with the idea of a future resurrection on "the last day"? What do you think this refers to.

JOHN 11: 24
Martha answered, "I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day."

It is easily reconciled. When someone dies their soul goes to heaven (or elsewhere) and at the Resurrection soul and body are reunited.

I suggest this is nowhere stated in scripture, but is what almost every believer assumes to be factual.

We needn't discuss whether a human is body and soul, since I am aware a relatively small group of people insist this is not so, by taking a special interpretation of a verse. Given there seems to be a dilemma for those who don't accept soul and body, the verse is an indication that they should alter their viewpoint. Meanwhile, most believers would see no problem at all.

Truth is not determined by majority opinion, or error because it is held by a minority.

[Talishi]

I guess Talishi got stumped.

I would've loved to see her answer to your excellent question.

Said the only person on the board actively ignoring me.

[marco]

Truth is not determined by majority opinion, or error because it is held by a minority.

In other words: "we don't know" - which is very true. In matters spiritual common sense, of course, is often frustrated, so believing corpses will rise in whatever stage of life the corpse chooses to be uplifted is as good a theory as any other bit of human imaginative thought.

Thinking there is a spirit world which humans join is a rationalisation of ignorance. Thinking corpses free themselves of parasites and stench and rise recognisably (as 80-year olds, 20-year olds or babies) is not quite so rational and smacks of the absurd. But as you say, who knows?