hoghead1 wrote:
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Replying to post 673 by hoghead1]
I would strongly suggest you do some more research on evolution. Forget creation-science propaganda, study what real scientists have to say, what their research shows. Evolution is probably one of the best supported theories in science. That's why it is so central in modern science. You might find it interesting and highly informative to read about AR Wallace some time. As far as I am concerned, he is the great unsung hero of evolution, the one who really came up with the idea, though Darwin published and got all the press. AR Wallace is most impressive because did so much painstaking field work and presented a huge collection of specimens, having discovered around 5000 new species of insects. It is often said that evolution hasn't been observed in the lab. That is not true. it has been doe at least once with evolving a new species of bacteria. I can send you the of this paper if you want, but it is very dry. Bottom line, if you get down to it and really study the subject, really study modern science, I know you will find tons of supporting evidence.
Thank you.
I'm not sure what it is you think I don't understand about evolution, or why you conclude I don't understand, or what makes you think that reading what I have already read will make any difference.
However, I understand that it is easy to assume that we know.
Since I don't know what you know, or don't know, I would like to suggest that
if you haven't done so already, please feel free to accept a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses. Those studies will help you to understand, not only the question of
how life got here, but
why.
It addresses a lot of unanswered questions that science
have not, and
cannot answer. And its answers does not leave one to accept a long series of impossible coincidences, which the evolution theory is built on.
Additionally, the theories that support evolution are in no way provable.
Expanding on this...
There is something we know as copyright infringement - A violation of the rights secured by a copyright.
Someone originates something. Someone comes along after. Rather than giving credit to the originator, they take the credit for themselves, or place it elsewhere.
That's the theory of evolution in a nutshell, imo - a copyright infringement.
Life was created - the genetic code was no accident. The owner of it masterfully designed it for the purpose of variants in all living things.
The advocates of evolution, seeking to deny the owner the credit due, claim that this code,
because it is found in all living things, must have originated with one common ancestor, and passed down through generations for millions of years.
They also take the purposefully designed reproductive system responsible for extending those variants, and claim that this is evolution in action.
What an absurd, and reprehensible assertion.
The seriousness of the violaton is more obvious by the fact that, after more than a century, they have failed to prove that claim, by any solid evidence.
I know. I know.
"We don't understand it." "We are blinded by religion." The song of the twentieth century.
Belief in the Theory of Evolution Versus Religious Faith
Religious groups have represented the most serious and prolonged opponents of the theory of evolution and preach and teach at great length against it, putting off many believers from researching the topic and leaving them only with misinformation. This is especially damaging in countries with poor public education. Many highly religious countries have banned it (although not always everywhere), such as Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, the United States, Nigeria, and Turkey, "to the point where a significant percentage of their populations are firmly against it without even knowing what it is". In the developed world, the USA has the highest percept of creationists and is also the most religious highly developed country, whereas Iceland, Denmark and Sweden have the strongest belief in evolution, and are some of the least religious countries in the world. Needless to say, education in the Muslim countries of the Middle East are heavily and horribly biased against evolution, with understanding of science even amongst teachers being poor.
The fact that so many believers are misinformed about human evolution is partly the fault of religion's continual attack on science education. [...] Highly religious nations such as Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, the United States, Nigeria, and Turkey, for example, have banned or avoided the teaching of human evolution in schools to the point where a significant percentage of their populations are firmly against it without even knowing what it is.
"The proportion of western European adults who believed the theory 'absolutely false' ranged from 7 percent in Great Britain to 15 percent in the Netherlands", whereas in the USA about one third "firmly reject" the idea of evolution. Inside the USA, belief in evolution is inversely correlated with religious beliefs. Only 14% of American adults say they definitely believe in evolution. Europe is much lessreligious, and "in European countries, including Denmark,Sweden, and France, more than 80 percent of adults surveyed said they accepted the concept of evolution". Quotes and data from the National Geographic (2006).
In the United States a Gallup poll conducted last year found that only 15% of people agreed with the proposition that 'humans developed over millions of years', up from 8% in 1982. Acceptance of evolution varies around the world, with the most ardent believers being in Iceland, Denmark and Sweden. [...] A country's belief in evolution is inversely correlated with its belief in God.
The Economist (2009)
There were several reasons for these inflated U.S. numbers. Miller said the most significant factor was the influence of fundamentalist religions.
The total effect of fundamentalist religious beliefs on attitude toward evolution was nearly twice as much in the United States, he said, which indicates that individuals who hold a strong belief in a personal God " and who pray frequently " were significantly less likely to view evolution as probably or definitely true than adults with less conservative religious views.
Surprising Number Of Americans Dont Believe In Evolution
It's the same with alternative lifestyles, isn't it?
Americans less accepting of homosexuality than other westerners " religion may be one reason
This aticle highlights a blatant message for the reality of the reasons for evolution and other dogmas being pushed on people.
In recent years, same-sex marriage has been legalized in some parts of the United States and in 15 countries worldwide, in part because of the publics changing views about the subject and because of increasing acceptance of homosexuality.
Notice the message -
The public's changing views, and increasing acceptance of something should motivate everyone to do the same.
I don't think so! How ridiculous and senseless!
Isn't that called peer-pressure? Isn't that against principles we may have been taught when growing up? Be a leader, not a follower?
We walk into a room where everyone is smoking pot, and we are the only "odd man", the only idiot, so change our views and be like everyone else.
I say it all the time - the twentieth century has produced the most backwards societies of all.
True religion does not produce backward people imo.
So, here's the thing. What are they going to do about that?
We are aware that they will try to force us to believe, but will that make us believe?
No. Even if they try to destroy religion, and imprison those who refuse to accept, will that make us accept?
No. We have faith that they are the ones who will be forced to acknowledge the very one they are trying to deny.
And those who don't deny God, but feel pressured to believe that somehow God was involved in evolution - they too will be forced to acknowledge.
That's what I believe.
If you believe different, fine.
We are all entitled to believe in what we want.
I believe I know all I need to know about the theory of evolution - It's a lie.
Let me share a bit more on why evolution fails so miserably, in my view.
Aside from the fact that they can show no evidence of the common ancester, and evolution of varying organisms through that process, those who support evolution cannot even properly argue for it.
Take for example...
When someone (A) asks for evidence for something and they are given information, they should be able to produce a counter argument if they disagree. If they do not respond, then the person (B) has good reason to believe their argument is sound.
Likewise, if A responds with a counter argument against B's argument, and B refuses to counter it, then A has good reason for believing his argument is sound.
Do you see the point I am making?
When you really give it some thought, you realize that the situation from both positions are not very different.
True, they are some Christians who really don't know much about evolution, but who reject it anyway - perhaps because they believe the Bible and Jesus Christ has the truthful answers.
But they are also people who don't know much about evolution, but accept it anyway - perhaps because they don't want to follow the Bible's teachings, or they think that they fit in with the educated since it is taught that the highly educated accept it, or other reasons.
Then there are people who don't believe the Bible, even though they don't understand it (even if they think they do), or know very little about it. Neither do they care to understand it.
So how different are we? Not much.
We simply are making choices - choosing to believe either, by being informed, or misinformed.
Either way, we made the choice.
I hope you understand the position I am trying to put before you.
