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Replying to post 48 by Blastcat]
Blastcat wrote:
Oh, you don't know about the marriage loophole?
Try Exodus 21:4
According to the Ex. 21:3 slave had right to take his wife with him. but if the master had given the wife, it was different case. I wouldn’t keep slaves, or not let them have their wife and kids, but I have nothing why I could deny that from others. But because of love your neighbor and Jeremiah 34:8-17, I think people should not own slaves and that means that also nobody should have to pay taxes, which in my opinion are one form of slavery.
Blastcat wrote:I am not so much as one sided pessimistic as you seem to portray yourself:
I think I am realist, not pessimist.
Blastcat wrote:I imagine that lots of families love one another, and that, all over the world.
Maybe people love their families in some cases. That is possible, but the standard for disciples of Jesus is this:
But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you, that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Don't even the tax collectors do the same? If you only greet your friends, what more do you do than others? Don't even the tax collectors do the same? Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Mat. 5:44-45
Blastcat wrote: 1. Why would it be moral for Jews to have the right to buy and sell people as property?
I think buying could have been moral for example because then the bought person could have had better life than with the nation that is willing to sell own people.
Blastcat wrote: 2. Why would you consider cutting off the foreskin of a man against his will "good for the person"?
If for example it prevents him to be mistreated, then I think it can be good for the person. In ancient time, it may have been good, because of that. But I don’t really know accurately what were the reasons.
Blastcat wrote: 3. Would you consider cutting off the foreskin of a man against his will "good for the person" TODAY?
At the moment, I don’t know why it would be good, but either I don’t know why it would be bad.
Blastcat wrote: 4. Why would slavery be OK back then and NOT OK today?
I don’t support slavery in any time, therefore I am also against tax paying, which is in my opinion form of slavery. But it could have been ok, if it makes the slaves life better as it may have done in some cases. After all, the master of slave must take care of the slave.
Blastcat wrote: 6. Do you consider it moral to force a woman into servitude, and then force her into marriage?
If the other option makes her life worse, then I think it can be moral. But even if so, I think she should be treated well.
Blastcat wrote: 8. And finally, I would greatly appreciate it if you felt that I was taking your arguments seriously. Because I am. I am trying very HARD, as a matter of fact, to take all of your arguments seriously. is there any way that I can help you to feel that I am considering each and every one of your arguments?
Ok, my point was actually that I don’t think about do you consider it, because it is not something that I need to think or even know. Maybe you do so, and nice if you do so, thank you.
