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Jehovah's Witnesses believe there will be a ban on religion

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Jehovah's Witnesses have long pointed to what they believe is bible prophecy that there will eventually be political measures to restrict all outward manifestations of religious activity.

My question is:

- Do you believe the world will be a safer place if what they believe came true, ie an end to religioun (leaving personal belief a private matter)?
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JehovahsWitness wrote:
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Peds nurse wrote: Over and over again, this was proven to be true in the Bible.
A fairy tale cannot prove its own claims to be true.
That might be the case but we are here in Theology, Doctrine, and Dogma discussing the bible so unless you are asking for proof that the bible is true (is that what you are asking? Are you asking "prove the bible is true"?)... I don't see how this comment is relevant.

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[Replying to post 9 by JehovahsWitness]

Since comments attacking the Bible's validity almost always comes up trying to hi-jack threads, but it doesn't count as breaking the rules, I have found the ignore button useful. Removing their comments allow me to focus on those actually willing to discuss the thread theme. Fortunately these comments come from the same people in every thread which means I'm not missing out on anything relevant to the theme. Let's face it, some of us don't want every thread to be about the Bible's validity. So I just remove the comments myself. O:)

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2timothy316 wrote: [Replying to post 9 by JehovahsWitness]

Since comments attacking the Bible's validity almost always comes up trying to hi-jack threads, but it doesn't count as breaking the rules, I have found the ignore button useful.
The response "Prove the bible is true" is against the rules in this sub-forum (I don't view it as an attack, it is a legitimate question... over in C&A subforum) but it is a distraction. I am just attempting to discuss a bible topic, I try and pick where I post my questions carefully for that very reason.
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Hello DI!! Did I say that wrong? I said it was true in the Bible...and Cinderella did lose one of her slippers, that is also true, just to clarify.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Jehovah's Witnesses have long pointed to what they believe is bible prophecy that there will eventually be political measures to restrict all outward manifestations of religious activity.

My question is:

- Do you believe the world will be a safer place if what they believe came true, ie an end to religioun (leaving personal belief a private matter)?
I absolutely think the world would be a safer place if all religious beliefs faded and disappeared. Banning religions on the other hand is a ridiculous idea. It is not possible to ban a person's thoughts, and attempting to do so is a useless, self defeating and repugnant notion.
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Tired of the Nonsense wrote: It is not possible to ban a person's thoughts, and attempting to do so is a useless, self defeating and repugnant notion.
I agree, thoughts cannot be legislated. That much is true.
Tired of the Nonsense wrote: I absolutely think the world would be a safer place if all religious beliefs faded and disappeared.
Maybe the day will come when some who hold this worldview will feel the need to "hurry things along"... in any case the Jehovah's Witnesse belief is that there will indeed be a State run assault (not on religious thought or belief) but on religious organizations and institutions.

We refer to this biblically as "the destruction of Babylon the Great".


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JehovahsWitness wrote:
Tired of the Nonsense wrote: It is not possible to ban a person's thoughts, and attempting to do so is a useless, self defeating and repugnant notion.
I agree, thoughts cannot be legislated. That much is true.
Tired of the Nonsense wrote: I absolutely think the world would be a safer place if all religious beliefs faded and disappeared.
Maybe the day will come when some who hold this worldview will feel the need to "hurry things along"... in any case the Jehovah's Witnesse belief is that there will indeed be a State run assault (not on religious thought or belief) but on religious organizations and institutions.

We refer to this biblically as "the destruction of Babylon the Great".


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In case you failed to notice, Babylon was destroyed centuries ago. It's nothing more than an archaeological excavation now.
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Peds nurse wrote: Hello JW!! I hope that all things are well in your world!

I don't think that the government, or anyone for that matter, can take away our religious freedoms. If God is a part of who we are, then His love echo's from every cell in our being. They can demolish all the churches, and ban people from speaking His name, but they cannot control our heart's cry to be in His presence. God is not limited by governing laws, nor is His presence contingent upon buildings.
That is very true. But there WILL be a clamp-down on religion everywhere in the near future. Only the true religion will keep practicing. The false ones' parishioners will probably want to deal harshly with their clergy, knowing they were lied to, and there will be a major defecting to who knows where.

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Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
JehovahsWitness wrote:
Tired of the Nonsense wrote: It is not possible to ban a person's thoughts, and attempting to do so is a useless, self defeating and repugnant notion.
I agree, thoughts cannot be legislated. That much is true.
Tired of the Nonsense wrote: I absolutely think the world would be a safer place if all religious beliefs faded and disappeared.
Maybe the day will come when some who hold this worldview will feel the need to "hurry things along"... in any case the Jehovah's Witnesse belief is that there will indeed be a State run assault (not on religious thought or belief) but on religious organizations and institutions.

We refer to this biblically as "the destruction of Babylon the Great".


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In case you failed to notice, Babylon was destroyed centuries ago. It's nothing more than an archaeological excavation now.
We're talking about "Babylon the Great," the world empire of false religion---all of them shaped according to the pagan beliefs set in stone by the original Babylon.....such as the trinities of gods, immortality of the soul, literal hell-fire.

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onewithhim wrote:
Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
JehovahsWitness wrote:
Tired of the Nonsense wrote: It is not possible to ban a person's thoughts, and attempting to do so is a useless, self defeating and repugnant notion.
I agree, thoughts cannot be legislated. That much is true.
Tired of the Nonsense wrote: I absolutely think the world would be a safer place if all religious beliefs faded and disappeared.
Maybe the day will come when some who hold this worldview will feel the need to "hurry things along"... in any case the Jehovah's Witnesse belief is that there will indeed be a State run assault (not on religious thought or belief) but on religious organizations and institutions.

We refer to this biblically as "the destruction of Babylon the Great".


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In case you failed to notice, Babylon was destroyed centuries ago. It's nothing more than an archaeological excavation now.
We're talking about "Babylon the Great," the world empire of false religion---all of them shaped according to the pagan beliefs set in stone by the original Babylon.....such as the trinities of gods, immortality of the soul, literal hell-fire.
In other words you are making it up and declaring it to be true. Which is very appropriate since this is exactly how religious beliefs work.
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