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Why the interpretations?

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If the bible were compendious Christianity would be a more compelling belief even in the face of nature having better explanatory power.

Why would he leave his "word" open for debate?

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Chuck_G wrote:
ttruscott wrote: The non-compendious-ness of the Bible is to force HIS sinful elect to seek HIS Holy Spirit and not lean on their own understanding of what the book means.
What other than "their own understanding" does one have to decide what something means?
Being taught by someone with a better, deeper or truer understanding.
ttruscott wrote: It is to lead the elect to having a relationship with HIM, not a church or Book.
It seems to me that intentional obfuscation of a "message" would be the worst way to let the elect "hear the good news".
The elect will be brought to the understanding they need to fulfill their salvation but they will receive it from GOD, not their study of the book. Hearing comes from GOD. Neither does HE cause any intentional obfuscation of a "message" since the sinful nature of sinners is all it takes to make those not reborn impervious to HIS perfect message. The fault is in the sinner, the inability, unwillingness, to understand is caused by sin, not HIM being obtuse.
PCE Theology as I see it...

We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.

This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.

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Chuck_G wrote:Why would he leave his "word" open for debate?
And how could HE close the book message to debate? What could ever be written that would shut off all debate? HE would have to control the people reading it and force them to accept HIS words as true.

How does this force fit with our free will? It doesn't as proof of HIS deity would repress all rebellious desires and constrain the will so that it is not free, a theological no no.

There is no power in any idea that forces everyone to accept it and not pervert or corrupt it to their sinful ends.
PCE Theology as I see it...

We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.

This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.

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Re: Why the interpretations?

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ttruscott wrote: The non-compendious-ness of the Bible is to force HIS sinful elect to seek HIS Holy Spirit and not lean on their own understanding of what the book means
How do you know that your understanding of what the book means is not your understanding of what the book means? How can you be sure that your understanding is the result of the Holy Spirit?
ttruscott wrote: It is to lead the elect to having a relationship with HIM, not a church or Book.
I see no reason why clear instructions on prayer and communications with God would not lead to having a relationship with him. If the Bible clearly says "pray to God" then there you go... believers will pray to God and have a relationship with him.

As for a relationship with a church... the main reason people go to church is so that pastors and priests, people supposedly learned in the topic of the Bible, can explain to the masses what it means. If the Bible did not have this interpretive complications, no one would need to go to church. They would sit at home and "have a relationship with God" there.

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