Does scripture correct scripture?

[postroad]

Do you know what I mean? Progressive revelation, texts held in tension, correct interpretation, led by the Spirit. Blah. blah blah.

Feeling a bit frustrated today resolving the theological difficulties in the account of Jonah. Nothing to do with the absurdity of him being in the belly of a fish though.

Its to do with the concept of God changing his mind and also causing Jonah to become a false prophet through this. Good grief! God himself puts Jonah into the position of "false prophet" a crime punishable by death as blasphemy.

So what then? Does this little book call into question all texts concerning God's sovereignty, foreknowledge and basic trustworthiness and truthfulness?

[postroad]

[Replying to post 10 by Pierac]
Tsk tsk. You are not going to convince many Christians that the truth of the Bible is that God can hold a person accountable to an infraction that God himself engineered.

2 Samuel 24:1
[ David Enrolls the Fighting Men ] Again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, Go and take a census of Israel and Judah
1 Chronicles 21:1
[ David Counts the Fighting Men ] Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.

. I imagine that pitch. Hey Joe did you know that because of Adam, God really is justified in anything he does to us. Yep we can be lied to and led around by Gods evil minions into any manner of infractions. We are basically all dead anyway. He has said however that he will save some of us out of his own good pleasure so that they can glorify him in heaven. There we will witness the torment of those he didn't want to save so we would be really thankful and sing songs to him forever . There we can mingle our songs of praise with the shrieks of the damned for eternity. At least that's what I hope. He really doesn't owe me the truth.

[Pierac]

[Replying to post 10 by Pierac]
Tsk tsk. You are not going to convince many Christians that the truth of the Bible is that God can hold a person accountable to an infraction that God himself engineered.

2 Samuel 24:1
[ David Enrolls the Fighting Men ] Again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, Go and take a census of Israel and Judah
1 Chronicles 21:1
[ David Counts the Fighting Men ] Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.

. I imagine that pitch. Hey Joe did you know that because of Adam, God really is justified in anything he does to us. Yep we can be lied to and led around by Gods evil minions into any manner of infractions. We are basically all dead anyway. He has said however that he will save some of us out of his own good pleasure so that they can glorify him in heaven. There we will witness the torment of those he didn't want to save so we would be really thankful and sing songs to him forever . There we can mingle our songs of praise with the shrieks of the damned for eternity. At least that's what I hope. He really doesn't owe me the truth.

Which Paul are you commenting on?

I made only one comment... which was... You Have much to learn... SO... You must be speaking to the other Paul of scripture? or making much to do about nothing about my comment that you have much to learn?

So... You talking to me??? or are you disagreeing with the other Paul...??? :yapyap:


Paul

[postroad]

[Replying to post 12 by Pierac]
No doubt the Apostle Paul was indicating that God had the right and did in fact use his creation in any manner he saw fit. So does God have any obligation to be truthful to his creation?

[ttruscott]

[Replying to post 12 by Pierac]
No doubt the Apostle Paul was indicating that God had the right and did in fact use his creation in any manner he saw fit. So does God have any obligation to be truthful to his creation?

At least, HE has no obligation to protect sinners from the lies of Satan, as both David and Eve found out.

[ttruscott]

[Replying to post 10 by Pierac]
Tsk tsk. You are not going to convince many Christians that the truth of the Bible is that God can hold a person accountable to an infraction that God himself engineered.

2 Samuel 24:1
[ David Enrolls the Fighting Men ] Again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, Go and take a census of Israel and Judah
1 Chronicles 21:1
[ David Counts the Fighting Men ] Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.

. I imagine that pitch. Hey Joe did you know that because of Adam, God really is justified in anything he does to us. Yep we can be lied to and led around by Gods evil minions into any manner of infractions. We are basically all dead anyway. He has said however that he will save some of us out of his own good pleasure so that they can glorify him in heaven. There we will witness the torment of those he didn't want to save so we would be really thankful and sing songs to him forever . There we can mingle our songs of praise with the shrieks of the damned for eternity. At least that's what I hope. He really doesn't owe me the truth.

Which Paul are you commenting on?

What reference to any PAUL are you talking about? I see none...???

[postroad]

[Replying to post 15 by ttruscott]
His real name is Paul and he had referenced some text from the book of Romans.

[postroad]

[Replying to post 14 by ttruscott]

In fact he does not even feel obligated to protect his saints. Does the following text indicate they were defeated in spiritual or physical warfare? So much for the rapture.

Revelation 13:7New International Version (NIV)

7 It was given power to wage war against Gods holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.

[polonius]

Do you know what I mean? Progressive revelation, texts held in tension, correct interpretation, led by the Spirit. Blah. blah blah.

Feeling a bit frustrated today resolving the theological difficulties in the account of Jonah. Nothing to do with the absurdity of him being in the belly of a fish though.

Its to do with the concept of God changing his mind and also causing Jonah to become a false prophet through this. Good grief! God himself puts Jonah into the position of "false prophet" a crime punishable by death as blasphemy.

So what then? Does this little book call into question all texts concerning God's sovereignty, foreknowledge and basic trustworthiness and truthfulness?

No, except in the minds of people who read it that way.

RESPONSE:

And all those who can recognize error! And can be honest about it.