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Jehovah's Witnesses believe God to be in Heaven, but that he can see everywhere and that his power can reach any part of the universe.


My question is: Where do you believe god is?

- Does he live Heaven?
- Does he literally live Inside of you (in your heart or another organ)?
- Is he literally everywhere?
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JehovahsWitness wrote:
My question is: Where do you believe god is?
I believe God is in the minds of humans. He takes on the characteristics that humans want to give him so sometimes he is frighteningly cruel, sometimes avuncular, occasionally hurt and sorrowful because of something we said or did.

Since he has not declared himself to be in any location we should respect his silence. If we think he's in heaven then we get confused because heaven is like a mustard seed.
God plays the principal role in people's imagination.
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[Replying to post 10 by OnceConvinced]


"It's funny, there was is an old hymn that goes "You ask me how I know he lives. He liiiiiives within my hearrrrrt.

Which is really quite silly. How can anyone live in your heart? Your heart is a blood pumping organ and if we want to say it's a metaphor for your brain, that's kind of silly too. Why would God live in a brain?"

Quite silly you are right. Thankfully most Christians do not think of physical heart and brain but of will, affections, and understanding.
I suppose without heart and brain we would have no way of actualising affections or the understanding, so in a way it is true.

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[Replying to post 1 by JehovahsWitness]

Hi I am new here! I will try to make this my first argument and see how it goes :)

To answer the question "where is God" you first have to define who God IS.

For if we define God as a spirit, God could easily be everywhere. But if we define God as a creator with a physical body, God likely has a specific location though God's influence could be felt everywhere.

I might add, that I am not really a Christian and don't believe in religion, though I think the existence of God is by far the strongest argument we have for existence, so I do not put a lot into what JW's or other faiths believe.

If they can not put up a strong case for their beliefs being good, or from God it has no more worth to me than reading fantasy books.

One thing is for sure. If God is one and perfect, then God can not be ahead of so many religions with diverse beliefs. In fact I think most religions are really just created by ordinary people who has tried to follow teachings of great leaders or prophets, but without prophesy themselves has been like a blind leading a blind.

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Hector Barbosa wrote:For if we define God as a spirit, God could easily be everywhere. But if we define God as a creator with a physical body, God likely has a specific location though God's influence could be felt everywhere.
This seems to assume that physical bodies are the only type of body. However the bible indicates that there are physical bodies and spiritual ones. This is why the bible describes God as being in a specific location in Heaven, and angels entering or coming into his presence.

Other than that, yes I would agree that God's influence could be felt everywhere even if he were in one location.

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Hector Barbosa wrote:One thing is for sure. If God is one and perfect, then God can not be ahead of so many religions with diverse beliefs. In fact I think most religions are really just created by ordinary people who has tried to follow teachings of great leaders or prophets, but without prophesy themselves has been like a blind leading a blind.
You just quoted Jesus!

Indeed it is logical that if there is one God there would be one united way of worshiping him not thousands. We Jehovah's Witnesses believe that is indeed the case.


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Further reading : Are All Religions the Same? Do They All Lead to God?
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/q ... -the-same/
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[Replying to post 14 by JehovahsWitness]

Honestly are my IF's Invisible? This is the third comment I have had in a row here which has failed to read the IF word I clearly put in my post, which has caused all of you to completely misunderstand my posts.

Is this because you can not see the word if, or does this word mean something different where you come from?

The word IF does NOT imply a assumption in the UK.
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Hector Barbosa wrote: [Replying to post 14 by JehovahsWitness]

Honestly are my IF's Invisible? This is the third comment I have had in a row here which has failed to read the IF word I clearly put in my post, which has caused all of you to completely misunderstand my posts.

Is this because you can not see the word if, or does this word mean something different where you come from?

Was there anything I wrote that indicated that i did not see the word "if" in your posts?
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[Replying to post 17 by JehovahsWitness]

Yes you claimed my IF was an assumption, or that I made an assumption when I wrote the word IF. If does not imply assumption.

If implies a introducing a conditional clause, a condition or a possibility. NOT an assumption.

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Hector Barbosa wrote: [Replying to post 17 by JehovahsWitness]

Yes you claimed my IF was an assumption, or that I made an assumption when I wrote the word IF. If does not imply assumption.

If implies a introducing a conditional clause, a condition or a possibility. NOT an assumption.
JehovahsWitness wrote:This seems to assume that physical bodies are the only type of body.
I did not, I simply addressed an implied assumption namely that that there are only two possible options (the assumtion of the existence of God is already in the question):

1) a spirit: that can be "everywhere" ie without a body
or
2) a physical being with a (presumed) physical body (that could not).

I simply introduced a third (biblical) option

3) a spirit with a non-physical body (that is in a fixed "location") see above
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[quote="JehovahsWitness"]
Jehovah's Witnesses believe God to be in Heaven, but that he can see everywhere and that his power can reach any part of the universe.


My question is: Where do you believe god is?

- Does he live Heaven?
- Does he literally live Inside of you (in your heart or another organ)?
- Is he literally everywhere?
[/quote ]

Moses wrote in Exodus we can't see God but Elijah wrote we can hear God in that small voice in the depth of our consciousness and many people feel God.
God is like a tree falling in the forest with us there or not to hear and feel .

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