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Fulfilled prophesy convincing evidence of Bible's authorship

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JehovahsWitness claims that the contents of the bible present convincing evidence of its Divine origin. The third reason of three given is that it records history before it has happened.

Questions for debate:
  1. Is the Bible a reliable predictor of future events?
  2. Have any of the Biblical prophesies failed?
  3. Is fulfilled prophesy convincing evidence of the Bible's divine authorship?
JehovahsWitness wrote:QUESTION How do we know the bible (canon) is the word of God?

The contents of the bible present convincing evidence of its Divine origin.

#3 It records history before it has happened. The bible records historical dtails and events long before (in some cases hundreds of years) before they happened. This presents its most convincing evidence of Divine authorship since humans do not have the ability to see into the future.

CONCLUSION: The contents of the bible, its historical and scientific accuracy, its prophetic detail, as well as the practical benefits millions have drawn from applying its principles, convinces many that it is not just an exceptional book but, is what it claims to be, "the word of God".
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McCulloch wrote: JehovahsWitness claims that the contents of the bible present convincing evidence of its Divine origin. The third reason of three given is that it records history before it has happened.

Questions for debate:
  1. Is the Bible a reliable predictor of future events?
  2. Have any of the Biblical prophesies failed?
  3. Is fulfilled prophesy convincing evidence of the Bible's divine authorship?
JehovahsWitness wrote:QUESTION How do we know the bible (canon) is the word of God?

The contents of the bible present convincing evidence of its Divine origin.

#3 It records history before it has happened. The bible records historical dtails and events long before (in some cases hundreds of years) before they happened. This presents its most convincing evidence of Divine authorship since humans do not have the ability to see into the future.

CONCLUSION: The contents of the bible, its historical and scientific accuracy, its prophetic detail, as well as the practical benefits millions have drawn from applying its principles, convinces many that it is not just an exceptional book but, is what it claims to be, "the word of God".
The Bible is prophetic as long as one does not take into account the fact that experts detect that the various books which contain prophesy were modified by various hands over the course of the centuries during which the various prophecies were supposed to have occurred. Or if one does not take into account that the most famous prophecy of all, the return of Jesus, has an ongoing record of 2,000 years of futility.
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Of course the most convincing evidence of its divine nature is its text glows once a year and a divine voice reads it aloud.

Surely that would convince the least of us that it was a divine work.

Sorry - so hard to resist.
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Re: Fulfilled prophesy convincing evidence of Bible's author

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[Replying to post 1 by McCulloch]
Is the Bible a reliable predictor of future events?
I don't know, hasn't happened yet.

Have any of the Biblical prophesies failed?
A good question. Made difficult in two ways. First, some that have not yet happened need not have failed: tick tock. Second, some said to have failed are based on interpretation: for instance, Jesus' Olivet discourse. Did he proclaim that the second coming (a phrase not used) would happen within the 1st c. AD? If so, then that would be a failed prophecy. But some scholars see him as predicting only some events to occur soon: the temple's destruction.
Is fulfilled prophesy convincing evidence of the Bible's divine authorship?
Not for me. I do not regard the majority of prophecies said to have been fulfilled as prophecies at all. It seems like the cart is drawing the horse.
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Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
McCulloch wrote: JehovahsWitness claims that the contents of the bible present convincing evidence of its Divine origin. The third reason of three given is that it records history before it has happened.

Questions for debate:
  1. Is the Bible a reliable predictor of future events?
  2. Have any of the Biblical prophesies failed?
  3. Is fulfilled prophesy convincing evidence of the Bible's divine authorship?
JehovahsWitness wrote:QUESTION How do we know the bible (canon) is the word of God?

The contents of the bible present convincing evidence of its Divine origin.

#3 It records history before it has happened. The bible records historical dtails and events long before (in some cases hundreds of years) before they happened. This presents its most convincing evidence of Divine authorship since humans do not have the ability to see into the future.

CONCLUSION: The contents of the bible, its historical and scientific accuracy, its prophetic detail, as well as the practical benefits millions have drawn from applying its principles, convinces many that it is not just an exceptional book but, is what it claims to be, "the word of God".
The Bible is prophetic as long as one does not take into account the fact that experts detect that the various books which contain prophesy were modified by various hands over the course of the centuries during which the various prophecies were supposed to have occurred. Or if one does not take into account that the most famous prophecy of all, the return of Jesus, has an ongoing record of 2,000 years of futility.
There are no fulfilled prophesies in the Bible so far. Based on track record, I'm not sweating Revelations...
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[Replying to post 4 by liamconnor]

...this is most unusual? A Christian who believes that Jesus was resurrected by an (all powerful? all knowing?) God that exists...but who apparently doesn't believe the Bible to contain prophecies of future events?
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McCulloch wrote:Is the Bible a reliable predictor of future events?
It seems to be, it was right about what happens to Jews, and it seems to be correct about modern day.
McCulloch wrote:Have any of the Biblical prophesies failed?
I dont know any.
McCulloch wrote:Is fulfilled prophesy convincing evidence of the Bible's divine authorship
For me it is.
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[Replying to post 7 by 1213]
It seems to be, it was right about what happens to Jews, and it seems to be correct about modern day.
I love how incredibly vague you are. Is it possible for you to give any detail whatsoever?
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[Replying to post 7 by 1213]

Prophesying a people will be oppressed, harshly treated, maligned, cursed, is like shooting fish in a barrel.

It is a very lucky group of people who don't have this history.
It is a more typical group of people who aren't around to complain.

Look at the Anglo-Saxon conflict, the American Indians, the exterminated and tortured cultures of Russia and China.

People suck,it it worse if you are on their bad side.

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[Replying to post 6 by rikuoamero]

Did I say that...hmm...

how about reading it again?
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