What's in a name?

[Checkpoint]

Names have their own meaning, and there is often a specific reason a parent has for choosing one for a newborn child they have.

In the Bible, a name may be changed to more accurately reflect a new situation.

What can we learn from the use and meaning of personal names in scripture?

[Prince]

[Replying to post 10 by Elijah John]

Jesus often talked about God as the Father not Jehovah or Yahweh and He was no Pagan

God's name is revealed to those who do His will.

[Elijah John]

[Replying to post 10 by Elijah John]

Jesus often talked about God as the Father not Jehovah or Yahweh and He was no Pagan

God's name is revealed to those who do His will.

Yes, YHVH is Jesus' Father, Our Father. But "Father" is a title, not a name. I agree Jesus was no Pagan...he was a true disciple of YHVH.

Let me ask you this. When King David implored the reader/(hearer) to "praise the name of the LORD" to "give thanks to the name of the LORD" and to "call on the name of the LORD" etc...

And Jesus taught us to "hallow" the name of the Father...do you think they were speaking of two different names?

[tigger2]

"Hallelujah - praise ye Jehovah" - p. 276, Today's Dictionary of the Bible, Bethany House Publishers, 1982.

"And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sits on the throne saying, 'Amen. Hallelujah!'" - Rev. 19:4, NASB.

The one who sits on the throne in Revelation is the Father (the only true God, Jehovah).

[Prince]

[Replying to post 10 by Elijah John]

Jesus often talked about God as the Father not Jehovah or Yahweh and He was no Pagan

God's name is revealed to those who do His will.

Yes, YHVH is Jesus' Father, Our Father. But "Father" is a title, not a name. I agree Jesus was no Pagan...he was a true disciple of YHVH.

Let me ask you this. When King David implored the reader/(hearer) to "praise the name of the LORD" to "give thanks to the name of the LORD" and to "call on the name of the LORD" etc...

And Jesus taught us to "hallow" the name of the Father...do you think they were speaking of two different names?

Of course it is the same name but not the name you think.

[Prince]

"Hallelujah - praise ye Jehovah" - p. 276, Today's Dictionary of the Bible, Bethany House Publishers, 1982.

"And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sits on the throne saying, 'Amen. Hallelujah!'" - Rev. 19:4, NASB.

The one who sits on the throne in Revelation is the Father (the only true God, Jehovah).

Don't you ever wonder why Jesus didn't emphasize the name Jehovah as God's name.

Because that is not the name to call on if you want God to hear you.

As the Lord says;

"Call upon me and I will answer you, I will tell you great things beyond the reach of your knowledge."

[tigger2]

2 The Lord, the Maker of heaven and earth"Jehovah is his name"says this: 3 Ask me and I will tell you some remarkable secrets about what is going to happen here. Jeremiah 33, TLB.

2 Thus saith Jehovah that doeth it, Jehovah that formeth it to establish it; Jehovah is his name: 3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and will show thee great things, and difficult, which thou knowest not. - Jer. 33, ASV.

2 Thus saith Jehovah the doer of it, Jehovah that formeth it to establish it, Jehovah is his name: 3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and I will shew thee great and hidden things, which thou knowest not. - Jer. 33, Darby

2 Thus said Jehovah its maker, Jehovah its former, at establishing it, Jehovah [is] His name: 3 Call unto Me, and I do answer thee, yea, I declare to thee great and fenced things -- thou hast not known them. -Jer. 33, YLT.

2. So says Jehovah its Maker, Jehovah who formed it in order to establish it; Jehovah is His name: 3 Call to Me, and I will answer you; and I will tell you great and inscrutable things; you do not know them. - Literal Bible.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 10 by Elijah John]

Jesus often talked about God as the Father not Jehovah or Yahweh and He was no Pagan

God's name is revealed to those who do His will.

Yes, YHVH is Jesus' Father, Our Father. But "Father" is a title, not a name. I agree Jesus was no Pagan...he was a true disciple of YHVH.

Let me ask you this. When King David implored the reader/(hearer) to "praise the name of the LORD" to "give thanks to the name of the LORD" and to "call on the name of the LORD" etc...

And Jesus taught us to "hallow" the name of the Father...do you think they were speaking of two different names?

Of course it is the same name but not the name you think.

What other name could it be? The Hebrew name for God is "YHWH," and is commonly translated as "Jehovah." There is no other name for God.

[onewithhim]

"Hallelujah - praise ye Jehovah" - p. 276, Today's Dictionary of the Bible, Bethany House Publishers, 1982.

"And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sits on the throne saying, 'Amen. Hallelujah!'" - Rev. 19:4, NASB.

The one who sits on the throne in Revelation is the Father (the only true God, Jehovah).

Don't you ever wonder why Jesus didn't emphasize the name Jehovah as God's name.

Because that is not the name to call on if you want God to hear you.

As the Lord says;

"Call upon me and I will answer you, I will tell you great things beyond the reach of your knowledge."

Jesus DID emphasize his Father's name---Jehovah. He spoke it every time he quoted from the O.T. He would not have left it out if it appeared in a scripture. He also said that he made his Father's name known and would continue to make it known (John 17:6,26).

Where is the verse found that you quoted? Who is "the Lord" that speaks that verse?

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[Prince]

2 The Lord, the Maker of heaven and earth"Jehovah is his name"says this: 3 Ask me and I will tell you some remarkable secrets about what is going to happen here. Jeremiah 33, TLB.

2 Thus saith Jehovah that doeth it, Jehovah that formeth it to establish it; Jehovah is his name: 3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and will show thee great things, and difficult, which thou knowest not. - Jer. 33, ASV.

2 Thus saith Jehovah the doer of it, Jehovah that formeth it to establish it, Jehovah is his name: 3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and I will shew thee great and hidden things, which thou knowest not. - Jer. 33, Darby

2 Thus said Jehovah its maker, Jehovah its former, at establishing it, Jehovah [is] His name: 3 Call unto Me, and I do answer thee, yea, I declare to thee great and fenced things -- thou hast not known them. -Jer. 33, YLT.

2. So says Jehovah its Maker, Jehovah who formed it in order to establish it; Jehovah is His name: 3 Call to Me, and I will answer you; and I will tell you great and inscrutable things; you do not know them. - Literal Bible.

Like I said, most bibles put Lord in place of YHWH or Jehovah. The reason is clear. That is not His name.

His name is known by the son " for the Father loves the son and whatever he does He shows him."

Your proof that Jehovah is His name only underscores your lack of virtue and understanding of God's word.

YHWH was first called Yahweh then changed by some Christian sects to Jehovah.

By the way I searched both Yahweh and Jehovah in the Gospels of all bibles and did not find it. So when did Jesus actually say the name Jehovah?

Here is an explanation I looked up.

Yahweh
Definition
by Joshua J. Mark

Yahweh is the name of the god of the ancient Hebrews composed of four Hebrew consonants (YHWH, known as the Tetragrammaton) which the prophet Moses is said to have revealed to his people. As the name of the supreme being was considered too holy to be spoken, the consonants YHWH were used to remind one to say the word adonai (lord) in place of the gods name (King). Yahweh was a desert god who, according to the biblical Book of Exodus, led his chosen people from captivity in Egypt to the promised land of Canaan. The meaning of the name Yahweh in referencing the Hebrew deity has been interpreted as He Who Makes That Which Has Been Made or He Brings Into Existence Whatever Exists, though other interpretations have been offered by many scholars. In the late middle ages, Yahweh came to be changed to Jehovah by Christian monks, a name commonly in use today.

Like all gods of antiquity, Yahweh was a specific deity of a people and of a place - in this case, the desert through which the Hebrews traveled - but once they had settled in Canaan, according to the biblical narrative, the worship of Yahweh as the single supreme deity was instituted throughout that land with more, or less, success. It was commonly accepted in antiquity that every deity was only accessible in that region over which the deity presided. Isis of Egypt was not accessible in Athens, Greece and so an Egyptian traveler to Athens would simply pay homage to Athena there instead of Isis; the followers of Yahweh disregarded this belief and practice.

YAHWEH, AS THE ACTUAL NAME OF THE SUPREME BEING, SEEMS TO HAVE REMAINED IN USE UNTIL THE BABYLONIAN EXILE IN THE 6TH CENTURY BCE.
Canaan, populated by the Phoenicians at the time of the arrival of the Hebrews (or, at least, by the time the Hebrew Scriptures were written down), worshipped the many gods of their own pantheon, and the entirety of the scripture known as The Tanakh can be read as a struggle between the monotheistic belief of the scribes of Yahweh and the polytheistic religion of the indigenous people. This is not to say that every citizen of the region practiced either monotheism or polytheism, nor that there was anything like daily hostilities between factions, but simply that the authors of the biblical narratives felt so strongly about their subject that they framed the character of their deity against the backdrop of a polytheistic society at odds with their one, true god, Yahweh.

Yahweh, as the actual name of the supreme being, seems to have remained in use until the Babylonian Exile in the 6th century BCE. At that time King Nebuchadnezzar attacked and defeated Judah (as the southern kingdom of what was once Canaan came to be called) and carried off the aristocratic and elite to Babylon. These captives were the intellectuals and artists, the doctors, teachers and the priests of the people. Instead of the temples in which Yahweh had been worshipped back in their home, the Hebrew priests gathered their people together in what became known as a synogogue (a Greek word meaning to bring together) where they would discuss the supreme being, receive religious instruction and, for the young, practice their native language. In this way the culture of the Hebrews, and the name of Yahweh, was preserved throughout the Exile.

[Elijah John]

And Jesus taught us to "hallow" the name of the Father...do you think they were speaking of two different names?

Of course it is the same name but not the name you think.

Do you then suppose that King David understood the name to be "Father" when he implored "Give thanks to the name of the LORD", etc. etc.