+ And what attributes among them are neither physical nor spiritual?
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What are the attributes of God?+
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Post #2I must say that God is not really a Spirit because God created the Spirit world before creating the physical world.paarsurrey1 wrote: + And what attributes among them are neither physical nor spiritual?
As such even the Spirits of the Spirit world do not correctly know what is the Creator God.
I do say that the real Creator God can be seen in its attributes and qualities, much like science does for magnetism and gravity which are invisible and are not physical.
God is some kind of an absolute, but for us the absolute qualities or attributes are by far the hardest to find.
As in any absolute Truth is an absolute attribute of God, and extreme or absolute love is another attribute of God, and I expect that absolute courage is another attribute.
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Post #3Another mistake on your part, magnetism and gravity are entirely physical processes, even if we don't 'see' them. Might be best not to make claims about the physical world if you're unable to back them up.JP Cusick wrote: I do say that the real Creator God can be seen in its attributes and qualities, much like science does for magnetism and gravity which are invisible and are not physical.
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Post #4I do see that as stretching the definition of "physical" away from its traditional meaning.Neatras wrote: Another mistake on your part, magnetism and gravity are entirely physical processes, even if we don't 'see' them. Might be best not to make claims about the physical world if you're unable to back them up.
It is an exaggeration of the meaning of physical.
I do realize that science will claim that the invisible forces are physical, but they are so much invisible that they can not be touched, can not be held, nor put under a microscope, as science demands of other invisible things which people call as spirits and spiritual.
Science simply has its own scientific version of mysticism.
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Post #5Here are few:paarsurrey1 wrote: What are the attributes of God?
God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24
He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8
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Post #61213 wrote:Here are few:paarsurrey1 wrote: What are the attributes of God?
God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24
He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8
Please quote from Jesus.God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.[/i]
John 4:24
I understand that spirits/souls are creation of One-True-God:
[17:86] And they ask thee concerning the soul. Say, The soul is by the command of my Lord; and of the knowledge thereof you have been given but a little.
https://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/s ... 7&verse=85
Reason in the above verse:
The Creator must be separate from the created and must have the existence prior to creation, only then he could have created something/someone, please.
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Post #7[Replying to post 6 by paarsurrey1]
It's very interesting to me that Islam has 99 names of Allah and not one of them is Father.
It seems like quite clear proof that God and Allah are not the same.
It's very interesting to me that Islam has 99 names of Allah and not one of them is Father.
It seems like quite clear proof that God and Allah are not the same.
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Post #8[Replying to post 1 by paarsurrey1]
When creating a new thread please give a little more context than what has been given. This seems to be an overflow thread.
Also, please clarify what "God" you are referring to. Allah, Zeus, YHWH, Aristotle's unmoveable mover?
Likewise, clarify what is meant by "spiritual". Is this 'non-physical'? Or is this 'God oriented'? A person can say he is spiritual and not mean he is incorporeal; rather, he means to have an attitude towards non-corporeal entities.
When creating a new thread please give a little more context than what has been given. This seems to be an overflow thread.
Also, please clarify what "God" you are referring to. Allah, Zeus, YHWH, Aristotle's unmoveable mover?
Likewise, clarify what is meant by "spiritual". Is this 'non-physical'? Or is this 'God oriented'? A person can say he is spiritual and not mean he is incorporeal; rather, he means to have an attitude towards non-corporeal entities.
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Post #9[Replying to post 2 by JP Cusick]
JP, it would be nice if you got into the habit of defining terms and defending propositions based on those terms.
What do you mean by Spirit? Do you mean incorporeal? Then you are arguing that whatever God you are describing is made of matter. Based on what?
JP, it would be nice if you got into the habit of defining terms and defending propositions based on those terms.
Which conception of 'God' are you referring to? Aristotle's? Plato's? The parthenon's?I must say that God is not really a Spirit because God created the Spirit world before creating the physical world.
What do you mean by Spirit? Do you mean incorporeal? Then you are arguing that whatever God you are describing is made of matter. Based on what?
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Post #10liamconnor wrote: [Replying to post 1 by paarsurrey1]
When creating a new thread please give a little more context than what has been given. This seems to be an overflow thread.
Also, please clarify what "God" you are referring to. Allah, Zeus, YHWH, Aristotle's unmoveable mover?
Since we are not in Islam or Pagan (I forget the name of that subforum) but in Christianity and Aplologetics subforum, I think it fair to presume the OP is refering to the Christian God of the bible ie YHWH the Father and Creator.
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