Scientific search for what is God.

[McCulloch]

I agree that the Big-Bang gives us very little insight into what is God, and the creation event is only a physical reality with very little to teach about the spiritual side.

It would be better if modern science would search to discover what is God but the people are so intimidated by the reality of God that science can not even talk about it let alone do the research.

The science of the "parallel universe" tells us so much more about our Creator, because if we each do exist in different parallel universes (and I accept that as true) then that does explain how God does gives truth and justices to every person whoever lived.

What would the search to discover what is God if it were to be carried out by modern science?

[Peter]

[Replying to post 55 by Peter]

If a god or it's effects exist in the natural world, Science will find it.

Scientists generally are not looking for GOD in the effects which exist in the natural world. Some interpret the handiwork of GOD therein, others see no reason to do so.

Mostly scientists are hired to focus on using science as a means of making money for those invested in this productivity.

The productivity is not always helpful in relation to the bigger picture. Often it is harmful.

Good Science generally doesn't complicate things with agency that's not required. All things being equal the simple answer is the best answer.
If you believe scientists are in it simply for the money you clearly don't understand scientists. Most live for the first discovery of something new in their field and care much less about the money.

[JP Cusick]

I'm unfamiliar with scientific investigation of the supernatural. Is it similar to the numerous "ghost hunter" shows on television? They frequently use flashy, beepy devices that alert them to a supernatural presence. On what principle do those devices operate? Wishful thinking maybe?

It is true that some TV shows have researched haunted places and made shows out of their research, and they do report finding Ghosts and spirits and phenomenon as being true, but most people just resist the countless examples of spirits and phenomenon throughout the entire world.

Most people just use (or misuse) the claim of science to empower their denials and their fears, because science gives people a big barrier to hide behind. We know that people do this because the same is recorded in the 1st century, see false science in 1 Timothy 6:20-21

For myself I do not want to hide or to reject the spiritual knowledge and so science just gets in the way of any real research on the topic.

Seriously, since Science is, by definition, limited to the natural world how on earth do you propose a science of the super natural?

The word natural has no real meaning to research except to limit the research and to limit any research into the physical realm, and of course that is exactly what people want who are terrified of the spiritual realities.

I do not say to research the super-natural because I find God to be the most natural thing possible, and that the spirit life is also natural, but it is science which uses the term natural in order to prevent any knowledge of the spiritual.

I have thought lately that the Ghost and Demons really need to be studied under the science of Psychology and Sociology and religion too, because the science of nature is just not equipped or suited to do this kind of research, but that would be a loss and a defeat which seems unnecessary.

[Peter]

[Replying to post 61 by JP Cusick]

Well JP I must agree with you on one thing. Science and the scientific method definitely gets in the way of truly studying the spiritual world. If we were all as open minded as you there would be a Hogwarts University in every State. I've always wanted to fly on a broom in a game of quidditch. Be well Sir.

[paarsurrey1]

[Replying to post 61 by JP Cusick]

Well JP I must agree with you on one thing. Science and the scientific method definitely gets in the way of truly studying the spiritual world. If we were all as open-minded as you there would be a Hogwarts University in every State. I've always wanted to fly on a broom in a game of quidditch. Be well Sir.

Science and the scientific method definitely gets in the way of truly studying the spiritual world.

I believe that Atheism/Agnosticism/Skepticism people most of the time hide behind science, though these ideologies are far from following science, necessarily.
Regards

[Monta]

[Replying to post 7 by McCulloch]


"Scientists have for generations included the possibility of a god. They eventually found that the God hypothesis did not help them at all."


Nicola Tesla would disagree.

[Bust Nak]

Mostly scientists are hired to focus on using science as a means of making money for those invested in this productivity.

What exactly is stopping organized churches from hiring scientists to search for empirical evidence for God? They are some of the wealthiest organizations on Earth.

[JP Cusick]

Mostly scientists are hired to focus on using science as a means of making money for those invested in this productivity.

What exactly is stopping organized churches from hiring scientists to search for empirical evidence for God? They are some of the wealthiest organizations on Earth.

Many Churches have paid for expeditions into archeology and doing excavations, and they have found lots of physical evidence.

Even way back (313 CE) when Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity then Constantine’s mother, Helena, visited the Holy Land (326 CE) and she finds the "True Cross" and orders churches built on sacred sites, and began large-scale pilgrimages.

The problem seems to be that religion just does not use scientific methods, just as science does not use religion as a source.

As the famous saying goes = "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

[paarsurrey1]

Mostly scientists are hired to focus on using science as a means of making money for those invested in this productivity.

What exactly is stopping organized churches from hiring scientists to search for empirical evidence for God? They are some of the wealthiest organizations on Earth.

Many Churches have paid for expeditions into archeology and doing excavations, and they have found lots of physical evidence.

Even way back (313 CE) when Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity then Constantine’s mother, Helena, visited the Holy Land (326 CE) and she finds the "True Cross" and orders churches built on sacred sites, and began large-scale pilgrimages.

The problem seems to be that religion just does not use scientific methods, just as science does not use religion as a source.

As the famous saying goes = "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

A great saying of Albert Einstein indeed.
Regards

[H.sapiens]

Mostly scientists are hired to focus on using science as a means of making money for those invested in this productivity.

What exactly is stopping organized churches from hiring scientists to search for empirical evidence for God? They are some of the wealthiest organizations on Earth.

Many Churches have paid for expeditions into archeology and doing excavations, and they have found lots of physical evidence.

Even way back (313 CE) when Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity then Constantine’s mother, Helena, visited the Holy Land (326 CE) and she finds the "True Cross" and orders churches built on sacred sites, and began large-scale pilgrimages.

The problem seems to be that religion just does not use scientific methods, just as science does not use religion as a source.

As the famous saying goes = "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

A great saying of Albert Einstein indeed.
Regards

Willfully misunderstanding quotes is much more dangerous and destructive of truth than is ignoring them because it reenforces the wrongheadedness that is already running the show.

[paarsurrey1]

[Replying to post 68 by H.sapiens]

JP Cusick wrote:
As the famous saying goes = "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

paarsurrey1 wrote:

A great saying of Albert Einstein indeed.

H.sapiens wrote:
Willfully misunderstanding quotes is much more dangerous and destructive of truth than is ignoring them because it reenforces the wrongheadedness that is already running the show.

Please provide one's correct understanding, if any.
Regards