Why some people reject evolution

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Why some people reject evolution

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Growing up, I was seldom interested in math. At first it seemed tedious and boring. I invented my own shortcuts to make it easier. Later it required discipline when it got too difficult to do in my head. So, i loved geometry, but lost interest after trig, which I didn't even try to understand. I've been thinking of trying to teach myself calculus, just to see if, at 69 I can do it. So, I looked for a free online course of study and found this:

As Henry Ford said, " Nothing is particularly hard if you divide it into small jobs ". Too much of the world is complicated by layers of evolution. If you understand how each layer is put down then you can begin to understand the complex systems that govern our world. Charles Darwin wrote in 1859 in his On The Origin of Species,

"When we no longer look at an organic being as a savage looks at a ship, as at something wholly beyond his comprehension; when we regard every production of nature as one which had a history; when we contemplate every complex structure and instinct as the summing up of many contrivances, each useful to the possessor, nearly in the same as when we look at any great mechanical invention as the summing of the labour, the experience, the reason, and even the blunders of numerous workmen; when we thus view each organic being, how far more interesting, I speak from experience, will the study of natural history become! "
http://www.understandingcalculus.com/

So here's the question, do people not believe in evolution just because the Bible tells them so? Or is there another factor; that rather than try to understand it in small steps, one tiny transition at a time, since the entirety of the process ("microbe to man") seems impossible to them, do they reject it out of hand without looking at it step by step?

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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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psychoslice wrote:
paarsurrey1 wrote:
psychoslice wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Danmark]

For me personally I don't see the bible as being literal, I see it only as metaphorical, evolution makes much more sense than creationism, this is because they take the bible too literally.
It is true that man has evolved in millions of years. But the issue strictly speaking does not belong to core teachings of the Truthful Religion. It pertains to science. The One-True-God created everything as per His Design and through any process
He willed. Evolution is also His creative design. Right, please?
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I see, can you prove that ?.
In religion the things are proved truthful from the Word of Revelation from God:

[71:14] What is the matter with you that you expect not wisdom and staidness from Allah?
[71:15] And He has created you in different forms and different conditions.
https://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/s ... 1&verse=14

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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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paarsurrey1 wrote:
psychoslice wrote:
paarsurrey1 wrote:
psychoslice wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Danmark]

For me personally I don't see the bible as being literal, I see it only as metaphorical, evolution makes much more sense than creationism, this is because they take the bible too literally.
It is true that man has evolved in millions of years. But the issue strictly speaking does not belong to core teachings of the Truthful Religion. It pertains to science. The One-True-God created everything as per His Design and through any process
He willed. Evolution is also His creative design. Right, please?
Regards
I see, can you prove that ?.
In religion the things are proved truthful from the Word of Revelation from God:

[71:14] What is the matter with you that you expect not wisdom and staidness from Allah?
[71:15] And He has created you in different forms and different conditions.
https://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/s ... 1&verse=14

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Circular reasoning thus meaningless.

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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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H.sapiens wrote: [Replying to post 167 by paarsurrey1]

The ultimate cop-out driven by a screaming desire for agency in all things.
I don't get one exactly. Please elaborate for me.
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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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[Replying to post 171 by H.sapiens]
Paarsurrey1
In religion the things are proved truthful from the Word of Revelation from God:

[71:14] What is the matter with you that you expect not wisdom and staidness from Allah?
[71:15] And He has created you in different forms and different conditions.
https://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/s ... 1&verse=14

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Circular reasoning thus meaningless.

I gave a straightforward quote from Quran- the Truthful Revelation of God, the creator of everything including humans. Right, please?
It supports science, if one believes in it, please.

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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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[Replying to post 172 by paarsurrey1]

Exactly or at all?


Definition of agency

plural agencies
1 a :the office or function of an agent (see agent 4)
b :the relationship between a principal and that person's agent
2 :the capacity, condition, or state of acting or of exerting power :operation
3 :a person or thing through which power is exerted or an end is achieved :instrumentality communicated through the agency of the ambassador
4 :an establishment engaged in doing business for another an advertising agency
5 :an administrative division (as of a government) the agency for consumer protection

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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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H.sapiens wrote:
paarsurrey1 wrote:
psychoslice wrote:
paarsurrey1 wrote:
psychoslice wrote:
[Replying to post 1 by Danmark]

For me personally I don't see the bible as being literal, I see it only as metaphorical, evolution makes much more sense than creationism, this is because they take the bible too literally.


It is true that man has evolved in millions of years. But the issue strictly speaking does not belong to core teachings of the Truthful Religion. It pertains to science. The One-True-God created everything as per His Design and through any process
He willed. Evolution is also His creative design. Right, please?
Regards

I see, can you prove that ?.


In religion the things are proved truthful from the Word of Revelation from God:

[71:14] What is the matter with you that you expect not wisdom and staidness from Allah?
[71:15] And He has created you in different forms and different conditions.
https://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/s ... 1&verse=14

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Circular reasoning thus meaningless.

Lets face it to believe a god did it all is certainly meaningless, no proof, nothing.

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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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[Replying to post 175 by psychoslice]

In religion the source of knowledge is Word of Revelation from God. It has supported that science has correctly discovered that man has got evolved under a process and has gone through different forms, now people don't accept it. Why they want that religion should have not stated it, please?

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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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[Replying to post 176 by paarsurrey1]
In religion the source of knowledge is Word of Revelation from God.
Without any verification it would be more correct to say that religious knowledge is the Made-up Word of Man. There is no way that the origin of any so-called holy book can be attributed to a god. That is why the concept of faith was invented.

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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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brunumb wrote: [Replying to post 176 by paarsurrey1]
In religion the source of knowledge is Word of Revelation from God.
Without any verification it would be more correct to say that religious knowledge is the Made-up Word of Man. There is no way that the origin of any so-called holy book can be attributed to a god. That is why the concept of faith was invented.
That was well said and of course correct.

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Re: Why some people reject evolution

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Danmark wrote:
So here's the question, do people not believe in evolution just because the Bible tells them so? Or is there another factor; that rather than try to understand it in small steps, one tiny transition at a time, since the entirety of the process ("microbe to man") seems impossible to them, do they reject it out of hand without looking at it step by step?[/size]
*sigh*

Dogs produce dogs, cats produce cats, fish produce fish, etc..

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