What is "The Good News?"

[EBA]

Tell me, what is "The Good News?"

Peace be to all.

[myth-one.com]

Do you know of any organized Christian denomination which actually understands what the good news of the gospel is? The widely taught eternal torture in the lake of fire, for example, is good news to no one!

Jesus is the one who taught that the unrighteous shall go the way of everlasting punishment.

I agree with Jesus.

Yes, the punishment for sinning is an everlasting punishment.

Why do you believe that I claimed otherwise?

I don't. But do you think everlasting punishment is good news to anyone?

Yes, its good news to many.

Also I should add: Do you think it's "Good News" that you are a sinner who deserves everlasting punishment and the only way you can be pardoned from this horrible predicament is to believe in Jesus?

I thing "good news" is an understatement! Fantastic or wonderful is more appropriate.

As I often point out, it's only "good news" if you first believe the "bad news" (i.e. you deserve everlasting punishment)

The fact that the punishment lasts forever is exceedingly "Good News!"

Those people will feel no more pain, fear, doubt, uncertainty, shame, hunger, thirst, etc, etc -- ever again!

[Prince]

Unless, of course, you actually can lay your hands on the sick and they will recover. But I think we all know that's not the case.

Not that JW's believe but the meaning you get is incorrect. Jesus was speaking in a spiritual sense not in a physical sense.

The problem is Prince that this doesn't work either. Even if you claim that Jesus was talking about "spiritual sickness" the Christians can't even do that. All the Christians do is use Jesus to accuse each other of being spiritually sick.

Christians hate each other in Jesus' name. Just look at how they argue with each other about what they think Jesus supposedly meant. They argue with each other even more than they argue with non-Christians. They are also constantly complaining that the world is out of control and everyone is evil. So much for the idea that they could lay their hands on anyone and heal them from their "spiritual sickness".

So that excuse for this clearly failed prophesy doesn't work either. You'll need to come up with something better than that.

It only fails with those who do not believe and those who do not know Jesus' name.

[Prince]

Gods word is the good news to those who live and walk in His name.

[Divine Insight]

The fact that the punishment lasts forever is exceedingly "Good News!"

Those people will feel no more pain, fear, doubt, uncertainty, shame, hunger, thirst, etc, etc -- ever again!

So are you saying that the non-believers and the unrighteous believer are the ones who are receiving the "Good News!"

[Divine Insight]

It only fails with those who do not believe and those who do not know Jesus' name.

No actually it fails as a theology. Period.

It doesn't matter what a person might believe anymore than the existence of fairies isn't dependent on whether or not a person believes.

[myth-one.com]

The fact that the punishment lasts forever is exceedingly "Good News!"

Those people will feel no more pain, fear, doubt, uncertainty, shame, hunger, thirst, etc, etc -- ever again!

So are you saying that the non-believers and the unrighteous believer are the ones who are receiving the "Good News!"

Few if any persons are receiving the true Good News of the scriptures.

I said the fact that the punishment last forever is good news.

The wages of sin is death. And those wages are everlasting. They will never live again.

There is nothing wrong with the choice made by nonbelievers after they have had the good news of the gospel explained to them.

If they choose to not participate in everlasting life, their choice will be respected and honored.

Everlasting spiritual life will not be forced on anyone.

And it is an important decision which should not be taken lightly.

There is no exit out of immortality upon accepting it.

The only exit out is the "second death" option.

If one has any doubts about living ETERNALLY, perhaps they should reject everlasting life.

[EBA]

The Good News is that mortal mankind can individually choose between everlasting life or everlasting death.

John 3:16"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

Believers shall have (future tense) everlasting life.

When does this "(future tense) everlasting life" begin?

Nonbelievers opt out of life by perishing, never to live again. "Annihilation" if you prefer that word.

What about "Nonbelievers" that have never heard the "Good News" - what happens to them?

Peace.

[Divine Insight]

There is nothing wrong with the choice made by nonbelievers after they have had the good news of the gospel explained to them.

If they choose to not participate in everlasting life, their choice will be respected and honored.

This is absolute hogwash. A "Non-believer" is a person who doesn't buy into these outrageous claims. Therefore they are not "choosing" to no participate in everlasting life. They simply see no reason to believe in such an outrageous fairytale.

Everlasting spiritual life will not be forced on anyone.

Everlasting spiritual life cannot be shown to exist beyond the imagination of ancient superstitious authors who clearly had an extremely bad sense of morality.

In fact, the Bible is so immoral there is no reason why an rational person should take it seriously.

And it is an important decision which should not be taken lightly.

There is no exit out of immortality upon accepting it.

The only exit out is the "second death" option.

If one has any doubts about living ETERNALLY, perhaps they should reject everlasting life.

If one has doubt about the existence of fairies perhaps they should have their head examined.

The religion that has you defending it, is nothing more than a provably false man-made cult. It's provably false. Make no mistake about that.

In the realm of pure philosophy it may be possible that there is a higher existence beyond the one we are currently experiencing. But the immoral ultimatums created by the Abrahamic religions are provably false.

Think about it. All these religions do is create followers who have been brainwashed to believe that they will be granted eternal life whilst all "non-believers" will die.

In fact, the Muslims no doubt believe this of the Christians. You guys are the ones who have rejected the all-important decision to accept eternal life with Allah. Instead you have been tricked by Satan to worship Jesus and be doomed.

I mean, seriously. How can you not see the difference?

If you were a Muslim you would be as certain about your position as you are as a Christian.

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Finally, you seem to be forgetting that Jesus said that the righteous will go the way of eternal life. Therefore there's no need to believe in any religion. All a person needs to do is be righteous.

Now if you want to claim that there is no such thing as a righteous person, then you'll have to take that argument up with Jesus. He clearly believed that righteous people exist. In fact, according to the Christian Gospels Jesus said that 99% of people who make it to eternal life do so via their own righteousness. Only 1% of the people who make it to heaven are sinners who have repented.

So clearly even the Christians have their own religious dogma entirely wrong.

[onewithhim]

Here is the "Good News"

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (1 John 4:14)

Though there are very few that believe it.

Peace.

That doesn't disqualify Matthew 24:14 as explaining what the Good News is. Why set I John forth and cast aside Matthew 24:14? They actually go together. We don't have one without the other.

[onewithhim]

The Good News is that mortal mankind can individually choose between everlasting life or everlasting death.

John 3:16"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

Believers shall have (future tense) everlasting life.

When does this "(future tense) everlasting life" begin?

Nonbelievers opt out of life by perishing, never to live again. "Annihilation" if you prefer that word.

What about "Nonbelievers" that have never heard the "Good News" - what happens to them?

Peace.

Nonbelievers who have never heard the Good News will be given the chance to learn what it is during the Thousand-Year Reign of Christ. Every person must be able to make an informed decision as to what they want to do---serve Jehovah or go with Satan.