They saw God the Son (Exodus 24:10-11)

[Faber]

Exodus 24:10-11
(10) and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself.
(11) Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and they ate and drank. (NASB)

John 6:46
Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father. (NASB)


Since they "saw God" (Exodus 24:10-11) but it wasn't the Father (John 6:46) to whom then does "God" refer to?

[marco]

Here's my question. Do we truly know what Christ said? I agree the words we have say by his mouth, he is the son. The words of John take it to a whole 'nother level. As well as Paul. But, since the Tanakh and the NT are oral traditions, passed many years till written as far as we know, Is it really exactly as described? There's the big maybe.

Well Paul makes things up to fit his thoughts on Thursday. John's opening trumpet, that the word was with God and the word was God, is taken to indicate that Jesus was divinely special. Of course theologians get wrapped up in logos but the word that issued from God's metaphorical lips was the start of creation, and what God breathed was God, or evidence of God. The preacher in Palestine was the receptacle of that word, and he transmitted it. Was he God? He was the incarnation of God's transmitted word. An emissary. The metaphorical offspring of God.

When we read a poem we have to ask how much the poet intended and how much is clever extrapolation, on our part.

[ttruscott]

Applying mathematics to the Trinity doesn't give the nice little sums you post here. In the classroom, 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, but in heaven it seems that 1 + 1 + 1 = 1.

Indeed, to present the Trinity as a math problem is a red herring riding on a strawhorse around the woozle bush.

The attributes that make one divine also unify all who have such attributes such that it is truer to say that "There is one GOD." or "God is One." than to claim there is more than one GOD even if there is more than one divine being.

An attribute of one's being is the definition of them in their being. One attribute of being Divine is a perfect Divine UNITY, echad, as ONE GOD.

[marco]

Indeed, to present the Trinity as a math problem is a red herring riding on a strawhorse around the woozle bush.

It isn't a maths problem. To be fair it is a very clever but very human conception and it gave Muhammad a few plus points in placing his brand above the Christian one. "Allah forbid that Allah should have a son," says Allah with rather atypical humour.

Jesus confused matters further by suggesting that the apostles would get inspiration, but instead of using plain language, he promised to send a spirit from heaven. It was assumed that a being from Paradise must be a god, rather than an abstract noun. Enter the choreographers and we have "tongues of fire" and polyglots. Acts 2:3
"And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them."

An attribute of one's being is the definition of them in their being. One attribute of being Divine is a perfect Divine UNITY, echad, as ONE GOD.

"echad" can refer to a unity, as man and wife becoming one; it can also mean an absolute, and referred to God it would mean that there is ONE God. There's no reason to suppose it means a triumvirate of gods, united in one.