Would you sacrifice your own son like Abraham was ready to

[Jagella]

I was studying Hebrews 11 today which praises people of faith. Verses 17-19 of that chapter lauds Abraham's obedience to God as Abraham was ready to murder his own son Isaac. (The original grotesque tale appears in Genesis 22.)

Would you murder your own son if God asked you to?

Yes--Well, this answer speaks for itself.

No--Then you admit that your religion is immoral.

I think I have faith of my own that none of the Christians here will give a straight, honest answer to this question. You will stonewall and do everything you can to divert attention away from this issue. You know that your religion is immoral but will never admit it.

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 1 by Jagella]

If i were Abraham with his experiences then yes.

I dont believe Abraham was crazy and hearing voices to kill his son.

More could be said about the story but it is beyond the scope of your request and i am not sure you care to hear.

[Jagella]

[Replying to post 1 by Jagella]

If i were Abraham with his experiences then yes.

OK, but you're not really answering the question. Would you murder your own son if God told you to?

I'd never to it. I'd give ol' Yahweh a gesture and say: "No way!" That's what Abraham should have answered.

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 1 by Jagella]

If i were Abraham with his experiences then yes.

OK, but you're not really answering the question. Would you murder your own son if God told you to?

I'd never to it. I'd give ol' Yahweh a gesture and say: "No way!" That's what Abraham should have answered.

Are you strawmanning the story of Abraham?

I would like to think I would do what Abraham did in that story were I in his shoes for that story.

If the Christian God asked me to kill my son I would. But I can't conceive a scenario involving the real me and the real God that would lead up to God asking me to kill my son. So you think you are creating a moral conundrum but it is more akin to a square circle. Nor will God be asking you or I to die on a cross to save the world. You aren't thinking through how illogical your assumptions are.

Why not try to do what we know the Christian God is asking us all to do - to love our neighbours as ourselves. Are you sticking your finger up to God on that one as well?

Also, for fun, one wonders if you are pro-abortion or not?

[bjs]

[Replying to Jagella]

I am not Abraham.

Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac was a once-in-history event. Asking how someone would respond if God made the same demand today reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of the account in Genesis and the nature of God.

So no, I would not sacrifice my child if “god� asked me to, because I would know that it was not God asking.

[ttruscott]

Would you murder your own son if God asked you to?

A square circle; a logical impossibility. Murder is against HIS law which HE would never break so this question has no meaning, par for the course... And of course I would never murder anyone against GOD's law.

Would I refuse to execute in accordance with the law a convicted psychopathic criminal just because he was my son, if asked to do so by YHWH? No... Matt 10:35 For I have come to turn ‘A man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

Every person who dies is a legally condemned criminal and death is the sentence for all sinners. The virtue you are so struggling to signal has no meaning without the giver of the moral law... Every True and Legitimate Child of GOD will have to slam shut the gates of hell, in accord with their eternal death, on any family member who is condemned already for choosing by their free will to rather go to hell than bow to YHWH. To refuse is to condemn the world to another round of suffering with the judgment postponed until they change their mind and accept the judgement as a necessary and loving thing to do for the holy Church in heaven.

[ttruscott]

Are you strawmanning the story of Abraham?

Well yeah.... the word murder says it all!!

[rikuoamero]

[Replying to post 1 by Jagella]

If i were Abraham with his experiences then yes.

OK, but you're not really answering the question. Would you murder your own son if God told you to?

I'd never to it. I'd give ol' Yahweh a gesture and say: "No way!" That's what Abraham should have answered.

Are you strawmanning the story of Abraham?

I would like to think I would do what Abraham did in that story were I in his shoes for that story.

If the Christian God asked me to kill my son I would. But I can't conceive a scenario involving the real me and the real God that would lead up to God asking me to kill my son. So you think you are creating a moral conundrum but it is more akin to a square circle. Nor will God be asking you or I to die on a cross to save the world. You aren't thinking through how illogical your assumptions are.

Why not try to do what we know the Christian God is asking us all to do - to love our neighbours as ourselves. Are you sticking your finger up to God on that one as well?

Also, for fun, one wonders if you are pro-abortion or not?

No it is NOTHING akin to a square circle. A square circle cannot be conceived of because the two terms contradict each other. A square is a shape with corners while a circle has none. So asking someone to conceive of a square circle is asking them to think of a shape that both has corners and none at the same time.
Can't be done.
The Christian God asking Abraham or you to murder your child? Oh yes, THAT can be conceived of. That can be understood, comprehended. It's one of the most famous Judaeo/Christian stories. It was taught to me as a child.
If you want to pursue the square circle analogy in this case, this would mean you would have to, no way out of it, say that there is no way at all for God to command someone to murder their child. Thus contradicting the binding of Isaac story. You'd end up saying that God never did and is incapable of giving that command.

So my retort here is to ask are you going to stick with the square circle analogy? Did God command Abraham to murder his son, yes or no?

[rikuoamero]

[Replying to Jagella]

I am not Abraham.

Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac was a once-in-history event. Asking how someone would respond if God made the same demand today reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of the account in Genesis and the nature of God.

So no, I would not sacrifice my child if “god� asked me to, because I would know that it was not God asking.

Is this how you would get out of moralistic conundrums like this? Just say that the morally reprehensible command was just a One off therefore there's no point in you even worrying about the hypothetical possibility of you also being given the same command?

So you would "know" that it is not God asking? How was Abraham to know? Was it God who asked Abraham? What criteria do you use or would you use on the off chance that you hear or think you hear God asking you to do what Abraham did?

[rikuoamero]

Would you murder your own son if God asked you to?

A square circle; a logical impossibility. Murder is against HIS law which HE would never break so this question has no meaning, par for the course... And of course I would never murder anyone against GOD's law.

Would I refuse to execute in accordance with the law a convicted psychopathic criminal just because he was my son, if asked to do so by YHWH? No... Matt 10:35 For I have come to turn ‘A man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

Every person who dies is a legally condemned criminal and death is the sentence for all sinners. The virtue you are so struggling to signal has no meaning without the giver of the moral law... Every True and Legitimate Child of GOD will have to slam shut the gates of hell, in accord with their eternal death, on any family member who is condemned already for choosing by their free will to rather go to hell than bow to YHWH. To refuse is to condemn the world to another round of suffering with the judgment postponed until they change their mind and accept the judgement as a necessary and loving thing to do for the holy Church in heaven.

On the off chance that you read this Ted, do you remember the last time I asked you about yourself I the ask a user section? How you gave some details about yourself in your youth, about how you attempted murder and other such nastiness?
How is this anything BUT condoning those actions?