JESUS IS NOT YHWH

[onewithhim]

Jesus prayed to YHWH, the Father, not to himself. (E.g., Matthew 26:39,42; John 11:41,42; John 17:1-26.) Would he have been praying to himself?

He continually referred to himself as "God's SON," not YHWH Himself. (John 5:19; John 8:28,29; John 10:36; John 17:1.) Even the Jews who hated him recognized that fact (John 19:7). Can he be his own Son?

He applied Isaiah 61:1,2 to himself, at Luke 4:17-21, showing that he was the one anointed BY YHWH, and sent BY YHWH. There are incontrovertibly two Persons mentioned in the passage, and YHWH is the One calling the shots. The anointed one does what YHWH wants. How could they be the same Person?

Psalm 110 is also applied to Jesus at Acts 2:34,35. He is the "Lord," or Messiah, that YHWH speaks to. Was YHWH talking to Himself?


I think that just these few points would show plainly that Jesus is not YHWH. Can anyone explain how THESE REFERENCES, ABOVE, can possibly agree with the premise that Jesus is YHWH? I'm not asking for other Scriptures to be brought in without commenting ON the verses I am asking about. Please give me your reasoning concerning these particular Scriptures. Thank you.

[onewithhim]

Some verification of Liams claim is in the preface of the NKJ bible. Under explainations of format. ...."in this edition the capitalized form God or Lord is also used whenever the covenant name is quoted in the new Testament"...

That must mean that wherever a scripture is quoted that had originally contained the Tetragrammaton, in the Hebrew Scriptures, then "God" or "Lord" would be capitalized in the New Testament. Interesting. That would be supporting JWs' position.

Actually, it means wherever the YHWH appeared, God or Lord was substistuted. And it was not Jehovah(in the script), a 13th century RCC creation. For me to go any further, I would need to understand Cornea Greek, which I don't. But , maybe one day.

That's what I actually said, that someone substituted "Lord" or "God" for the Tetragrammaton (YHWH), deliberately effacing God's personal name from the text.

I agree there. It only supports the YHWH was changed, not that it was Jehovah. It could be.(but not likely, due to the late appearance of J) What would be interesting to know is when the NT refers to the Son of man and when God.(Kurios, Theos, Logos) It seems purposefully clouded.

In fact, there must be great truth to these writings we hold to ourselves. Because, thru translations and misnomers, we all know its out there. We just have to hope we rightly divide the Word.
I must get a NWT, now. Just to divide.

Good idea, and compare many versions. Look at an Interlinear Bible as well, and you can see where the Tetragrammaton appears in the Hebrew text.

Wherever "Yod-He-Waw-He" (the Tetragrammaton) appears, that is God's name. It appears 7,000 times in the Hebrew Scriptures.

"Jehovah" is the most common pronunciation. That is why Jehovah's Witnesses use it. Originally the King James translators rendered the Tetragrammaton with an "I" instead of the "J"---"Iehovah." But later the "J" came into use, for whatever reason. It doesn't matter if we use the "I" or the "J." (The pronunciation of "Jesus" was only a relatively recent development. The original 1611 KJV presented the name of God's Son as "Iesus." Should we all forget "Jesus" and say "Iesus"?)

I don't think the pronunciation matters either. I just want people to know there are these things you describe. And also, that for someone to claim God's only proper name is .....blank...., is false also. He seems to name Himself by His works, as i believe we will be. He is Elohim when he judges and Jehovah when He comforts..

Many people say that JWs insist on one particular pronunciation of God's name, but that is not true. The JWs here on these threads and elsewhere have consistently said that it doesn't matter how you pronounce the Tetragrammaton, as long as you use God's name. It is pronounced very differently, depending on what language a person speaks. Some languages will use a pronunciation very close to "Jehovah," while others use a pronunciation close to "Yahweh."

[brianbbs67]

[Replying to post 400 by onewithhim]

I agree the pronunciation is subjective and doesn't matter. What I argue with JW is that it is not His proper name. There are many Hebrew names for God. They are all titles. Jehovah is a RCC interpetation from the 13th century. It did not exist before then. My study clearly shows me God has many monikers. It does not show His true name. Isreal hid that long ago. Could one of the names we know be correct? Sure. But, we must admit, we don't know 100%. I think addressing Him as God or Lord is very sufficient. HEre's another possibility for the Tetra, Yehowah. I am pretty sure that us recognizing He is Lord is what matters.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 400 by onewithhim]

I agree the pronunciation is subjective and doesn't matter. What I argue with JW is that it is not His proper name. There are many Hebrew names for God. They are all titles. Jehovah is a RCC interpetation from the 13th century. It did not exist before then. My study clearly shows me God has many monikers. It does not show His true name. Isreal hid that long ago. Could one of the names we know be correct? Sure. But, we must admit, we don't know 100%. I think addressing Him as God or Lord is very sufficient. HEre's another possibility for the Tetra, Yehowah. I am pretty sure that us recognizing He is Lord is what matters.

But it IS his proper name. It alone is used 7,000 times in the Scriptures. Just the Tetragrammaton, "Yod-He-WaW-He."

Other "names" are either names of places or objects dedicated to him, including his name to honor him, OR titles such as "Elohim."

One name that people erroneously think is HIS personal name is, for example, "Jehovah-Nissi." It is the name of either a city or an altar devoted TO Jehovah. (I am not at home right now and don't have my research books, and I don't remember all of the names of places that have Jehovah's name incorporated into their names, but there are quite a few.)

"Elohim" is a title that is also applied to pagan gods and angels, so it is definitely not a name of God.

We conclude what most scholars have concluded, that the Tetragrammaton is the personal name of the one true God. The King James Version has conceded to leave his name where it belongs four times. One such place is PSALM 83:18:

"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."

The Living Bible leaves God's name in the Scriptures hundreds of times, instead of taking it out like most versions do. One significant rendering of a verse that originally contained God's personal name is EXODUS 3:15:

"Then God said once more to Moses: 'This is what you are to say to the Israelites, "JEHOVAH the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you." This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.'"

If God says clearly that "Jehovah" (the most common pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton) is His name, and not anything else other than the Tetragrammaton, then why would we disagree? Because our clergyman says something else?



("Yehowah" is perfectly fine. In fact there are many pronunciations, depending on what language one speaks. Below are some of the pronunciations.)

Aneityum: Ihova
Arawak: Jehovah
Awabakal: Yehoa
Bangi: Yawe
Batak: Jahowa
Bube: Yehovah
Chacobo: Jahue
Chin: Zahova
Choctaw: Chihowa
Dakota: Jehowa
Dobu: Ieoba
Fijian: Jiova
French: IHVH
Hawaiian: Iehova
Hindustani: Yihovah
Ila: Yaave
Indonesian: YAHWEH
Kala Lagaw Ya: Iehovan
Mende: Yewoi
Mohawk: Yehovah
Muskogee: Cehofv
Navajo: Jiho'vah
Polish: Jehowa
Portuguese: Iahve
Tongan: Sihova
Zande: Yekova

These are just a few of the renderings of God's personal name; I have lists of over a hundred. All of the above are some of the languages spoken throughout the world, that JWs print literature in.

[Falling Light 101]

Yes, God Speaks to Himself.

Yes, God even REPENTS to Himself.

Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Exo 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Yes, God Prays To Himself.

Yes God Worships Himself.

Yes God - The Spirit - Created Himself - A Body. To Manifest Himself to Humanity


Yes God Manifested Himself Through - Christ Jesus.

REMEMBER that As Jesus is Speaking of His Departure He Says that - God Will Send the Holy Spirit ( The COMFORTER ) "

I will come to you -

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. "

God The Spirit - is reaching out to humanity Through The Son Jesus.

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

..............................

Jesus's Love, Jesus's eXistance and very Humanity - Is Simply, God - Reaching out to Humanity. Jesus is not another PERSON of a Triune, Triangulated, Triplett - Threesome of Three Separate Personalities and Personages.

He is Literally the VERY Makeup of God - He is THE VERY GOD Manifested in ( MORPHED ) into Human Form.

The Eternal Spirit Himself Shed His Very Own Eternal Blood. The Eternal Spirit Himself Who Speaks Audio Through Christ. - As Men Speak. - The Eternal Spirit Himself Who Walks with Man, as Men Walk.

As God Spoke *( AS A MAN ) To Adam, - As A man To Abraham, As A Man to Moses. As A Man to Gideon, As a Man.

The Same God Morphing His Spirit INTO The FORM / MORPH of a Literal Human Being. Living, Eating, Breathing and Feeling like a Human. While Still being in eXistance as a Spirit -

ALL at The Same time - in Heaven and in Earth, In Individual Disciples, Apostles, Prophets and in New Believers.

However - In Jesus Was the FULLNESS of the GODHEAD Bodily - In Christ.

Fullness Greek 4138 - - pleroma / play'-ro-mah

Full, Whole Completion, Filled To fill up, Fulfilling, Full, Fullness. The Father God - Manifested in flesh.

These Three - Are 1. - They are NOT THREE.

In (Revelation 5:6). Before taking the scroll from God the Father, the Lamb, Jesus, is seen to be situated in the center of the throne, occupying the same location and position as God, the Father. This would be consistent with Jesus' statements, "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30) and "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father"

. At any time, and at their will, they can coexist together as One.

Then, after projecting outward from the throne, having dissociated Himself from the Father (but still continuing to be God), Jesus, the Lamb, is seen to take the scroll from the RIGHT SIDE OF the throne.
In fact, in addition to God the Lamb (Jesus) and God the Father coexisting in the same place and at the same time.

Trinitarian believers just don't understand How Jesus Said in Joh 3:13

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Jesus was on Earth and In Heaven all at the Very Same Time. And The Silly Trinitardians Cant Imagine this in its One Step theology Religion.

So They Cant understand How Jesus Can Be Man and God at The Same Time.
While accepting Jesus Christ as the Whole Godhead as the Bible Declares.

Yes, God Speaks to Himself.

Yes, God even REPENTS to Himself.

Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Exo 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Yes, God Prays To Himself.

Yes God Worships Himself.

Yes God - The Spirit - Created Himself - A Body. To Manifest Himself to Humanity


Yes God Manifested Himself Through - Christ Jesus.

REMEMBER that As Jesus is Speaking of His Departure He Says that - God Will Send the Holy Spirit ( The COMFORTER ) "

I will come to you -

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. "

God The Spirit - is reaching out to humanity Through The Son Jesus.

Jesus's Love, Jesus's eXistance and very Humanity - Is Simply, God - Reaching out to Humanity. Jesus is not another PERSON of a Triune, Triangulated, Triplett - Threesome of Three Separate Personalities and Personages.

He is Literally the VERY Makeup of God - He is THE VERY GOD Manifested in ( MORPHED ) into Human Form.

The Eternal Spirit Himself Shed His Very Own Eternal Blood. The Eternal Spirit Himself Who Speaks Audio Through Christ. - As Men Speak. - The Eternal Spirit Himself Who Walks with Man, as Men Walk.

As God Spoke *( AS A MAN ) To Adam, - As A man To Abraham, As A Man to Moses. As A Man to Gideon, As a Man.

The Same God Morphing His Spirit INTO The FORM / MORPH of a Literal Human Being. Living, Eating, Breathing and Feeling like a Human. While Still being in eXistance as a Spirit -

ALL at The Same time - in Heaven and in Earth, In Individual Disciples, Apostles, Prophets and in New Believers.

However - In Jesus Was the FULLNESS of the GODHEAD Bodily - In Christ.

Fullness Greek 4138 - - pleroma / play'-ro-mah

Full, Whole Completion, Filled To fill up, Fulfilling, Full, Fullness. The Father God - Manifested in flesh.

These Three - Are 1. - They are NOT THREE.

In (Revelation 5:6). Before taking the scroll from God the Father, the Lamb, Jesus, is seen to be situated in the center of the throne, occupying the same location and position as God, the Father. This would be consistent with Jesus' statements, "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30) and "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father"
. At any time, and at their will, they can coexist together as One.

Then, after projecting outward from the throne, having dissociated Himself from the Father (but still continuing to be God), Jesus, the Lamb, is seen to take the scroll from the RIGHT SIDE OF the throne.

In fact, in addition to God the Lamb (Jesus) and God the Father coexisting in the same place and at the same time.

Trinitarians believers just don't understand How Jesus Said in Joh 3:13

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Jesus was on Earth and In Heaven all at the Very Same Time. And The Silly Trinitardians Cant Imagine this in its One Step theology Religion.

So They Cant understand How Jesus Can Be Man and God at The Same Time.
While accepting Jesus Christ as the Whole Godhead as the Bible Declares.

[tigger2]

[Replying to post 400 by onewithhim]

I like the pronunciation 'Yehowah,' but that's just my opinion.

As for the date of the earliest of existing manuscript copies of Paul's writings (P46), I see that Comfort and Barrett give a date of "sometime after 125 [A.D.]."

I would suggest sometime shortly after 135 A.D. (the Bar Kochba revolt). See my study of the effects of the Bar Kochba revolt here:
http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.co ... ians.html

[onewithhim]

Yes, God Speaks to Himself.

Yes, God even REPENTS to Himself.

Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Exo 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Yes, God Prays To Himself.

Yes God Worships Himself.

Yes God - The Spirit - Created Himself - A Body. To Manifest Himself to Humanity


Yes God Manifested Himself Through - Christ Jesus.

REMEMBER that As Jesus is Speaking of His Departure He Says that - God Will Send the Holy Spirit ( The COMFORTER ) "

I will come to you -

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. "

God The Spirit - is reaching out to humanity Through The Son Jesus.

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

..............................

Jesus's Love, Jesus's eXistance and very Humanity - Is Simply, God - Reaching out to Humanity. Jesus is not another PERSON of a Triune, Triangulated, Triplett - Threesome of Three Separate Personalities and Personages.

He is Literally the VERY Makeup of God - He is THE VERY GOD Manifested in ( MORPHED ) into Human Form.

The Eternal Spirit Himself Shed His Very Own Eternal Blood. The Eternal Spirit Himself Who Speaks Audio Through Christ. - As Men Speak. - The Eternal Spirit Himself Who Walks with Man, as Men Walk.

As God Spoke *( AS A MAN ) To Adam, - As A man To Abraham, As A Man to Moses. As A Man to Gideon, As a Man.

The Same God Morphing His Spirit INTO The FORM / MORPH of a Literal Human Being. Living, Eating, Breathing and Feeling like a Human. While Still being in eXistance as a Spirit -

ALL at The Same time - in Heaven and in Earth, In Individual Disciples, Apostles, Prophets and in New Believers.

However - In Jesus Was the FULLNESS of the GODHEAD Bodily - In Christ.

Fullness Greek 4138 - pl"rma / play'-ro-mah

Full, Whole Completion, Filled To fill up, Fulfilling, Full, Fullness. The Father God - Manifested in flesh.

These Three - Are 1. - They are NOT THREE.

In (Revelation 5:6). Before taking the scroll from God the Father, the Lamb, Jesus, is seen to be situated in the center of the throne, occupying the same location and position as God, the Father. This would be consistent with Jesus' statements, "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30) and "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father"

. At any time, and at their will, they can coexist together as One.

Then, after projecting outward from the throne, having dissociated Himself from the Father (but still continuing to be God), Jesus, the Lamb, is seen to take the scroll from the RIGHT SIDE OF the throne.
In fact, in addition to God the Lamb (Jesus) and God the Father coexisting in the same place and at the same time.

Trinitarian believers just don't understand How Jesus Said in Joh 3:13

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Jesus was on Earth and In Heaven all at the Very Same Time. And The Silly Trinitardians Cant Imagine this in its One Step theology Religion.

So They Cant understand How Jesus Can Be Man and God at The Same Time.
While accepting Jesus Christ as the Whole Godhead as the Bible Declares.

Yes, God Speaks to Himself.

Yes, God even REPENTS to Himself.

Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Exo 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Yes, God Prays To Himself.

Yes God Worships Himself.

Yes God - The Spirit - Created Himself - A Body. To Manifest Himself to Humanity


Yes God Manifested Himself Through - Christ Jesus.

REMEMBER that As Jesus is Speaking of His Departure He Says that - God Will Send the Holy Spirit ( The COMFORTER ) "

I will come to you -

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. "

God The Spirit - is reaching out to humanity Through The Son Jesus.

Jesus's Love, Jesus's eXistance and very Humanity - Is Simply, God - Reaching out to Humanity. Jesus is not another PERSON of a Triune, Triangulated, Triplett - Threesome of Three Separate Personalities and Personages.

He is Literally the VERY Makeup of God - He is THE VERY GOD Manifested in ( MORPHED ) into Human Form.

The Eternal Spirit Himself Shed His Very Own Eternal Blood. The Eternal Spirit Himself Who Speaks Audio Through Christ. - As Men Speak. - The Eternal Spirit Himself Who Walks with Man, as Men Walk.

As God Spoke *( AS A MAN ) To Adam, - As A man To Abraham, As A Man to Moses. As A Man to Gideon, As a Man.

The Same God Morphing His Spirit INTO The FORM / MORPH of a Literal Human Being. Living, Eating, Breathing and Feeling like a Human. While Still being in eXistance as a Spirit -

ALL at The Same time - in Heaven and in Earth, In Individual Disciples, Apostles, Prophets and in New Believers.

However - In Jesus Was the FULLNESS of the GODHEAD Bodily - In Christ.

Fullness Greek 4138 - pl"rma / play'-ro-mah

Full, Whole Completion, Filled To fill up, Fulfilling, Full, Fullness. The Father God - Manifested in flesh.

These Three - Are 1. - They are NOT THREE.

In (Revelation 5:6). Before taking the scroll from God the Father, the Lamb, Jesus, is seen to be situated in the center of the throne, occupying the same location and position as God, the Father. This would be consistent with Jesus' statements, "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30) and "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father"
. At any time, and at their will, they can coexist together as One.

Then, after projecting outward from the throne, having dissociated Himself from the Father (but still continuing to be God), Jesus, the Lamb, is seen to take the scroll from the RIGHT SIDE OF the throne.

In fact, in addition to God the Lamb (Jesus) and God the Father coexisting in the same place and at the same time.

Trinitarians believers just don't understand How Jesus Said in Joh 3:13

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Jesus was on Earth and In Heaven all at the Very Same Time. And The Silly Trinitardians Cant Imagine this in its One Step theology Religion.

So They Cant understand How Jesus Can Be Man and God at The Same Time.
While accepting Jesus Christ as the Whole Godhead as the Bible Declares.

No, God does not talk to himself, repent to himself or worship himself. To say that he does diminishes everything that Jesus Christ ever did. You accuse him of playing a silly game and you also accuse him of being a liar. He said that God was in heaven, and he would return to heaven to be at God's right hand. This, according to you is a falsehood.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 400 by onewithhim]

I like the pronunciation 'Yehowah,' but that's just my opinion.

As for the date of the earliest of existing manuscript copies of Paul's writings (P46), I see that Comfort and Barrett give a date of "sometime after 125 [A.D.]."

I would suggest sometime shortly after 135 A.D. (the Bar Kochba revolt). See my study of the effects of the Bar Kochba revolt here:
http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.co ... ians.html

I like the pronunciation "Jehovah," particularly because that is the way I've heard his name since I was a small child, even in the Baptist Church. I also like the pronunciation "Yahveh." I understand that the Jews don't pronounce "W" as "W." it would be pronounced like a "V." So saying "Yahveh" is better than saying "Yahweh" in English, like so many say, thinking it is most correct.

[tigger2]

[Replying to post 406 by onewithhim]

More on date of earliest existing manuscript (p46) for Paul's letters:

p46 - its 'most probable date' between 175 and 225. - Griffin, Bruce W. (1996),
The Paleographical Dating of P-46

As for the Hebrew waw, it is only relatively recent that it has been pronounced with a "v" sound. It was pronounced as "w" in Biblical times.

[brianbbs67]

[Replying to post 400 by onewithhim]

I agree the pronunciation is subjective and doesn't matter. What I argue with JW is that it is not His proper name. There are many Hebrew names for God. They are all titles. Jehovah is a RCC interpetation from the 13th century. It did not exist before then. My study clearly shows me God has many monikers. It does not show His true name. Isreal hid that long ago. Could one of the names we know be correct? Sure. But, we must admit, we don't know 100%. I think addressing Him as God or Lord is very sufficient. HEre's another possibility for the Tetra, Yehowah. I am pretty sure that us recognizing He is Lord is what matters.

But it IS his proper name. It alone is used 7,000 times in the Scriptures. Just the Tetragrammaton, "Yod-He-WaW-He."

Other "names" are either names of places or objects dedicated to him, including his name to honor him, OR titles such as "Elohim."

One name that people erroneously think is HIS personal name is, for example, "Jehovah-Nissi." It is the name of either a city or an altar devoted TO Jehovah. (I am not at home right now and don't have my research books, and I don't remember all of the names of places that have Jehovah's name incorporated into their names, but there are quite a few.)

"Elohim" is a title that is also applied to pagan gods and angels, so it is definitely not a name of God.

We conclude what most scholars have concluded, that the Tetragrammaton is the personal name of the one true God. The King James Version has conceded to leave his name where it belongs four times. One such place is PSALM 83:18:

"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."

The Living Bible leaves God's name in the Scriptures hundreds of times, instead of taking it out like most versions do. One significant rendering of a verse that originally contained God's personal name is EXODUS 3:15:

"Then God said once more to Moses: 'This is what you are to say to the Israelites, "JEHOVAH the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you." This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.'"

If God says clearly that "Jehovah" (the most common pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton) is His name, and not anything else other than the Tetragrammaton, then why would we disagree? Because our clergyman says something else?



("Yehowah" is perfectly fine. In fact there are many pronunciations, depending on what language one speaks. Below are some of the pronunciations.)

Aneityum: Ihova
Arawak: Jehovah
Awabakal: Yehoa
Bangi: Yawe
Batak: Jahowa
Bube: Yehovah
Chacobo: Jahue
Chin: Zahova
Choctaw: Chihowa
Dakota: Jehowa
Dobu: Ieoba
Fijian: Jiova
French: IHVH
Hawaiian: Iehova
Hindustani: Yihovah
Ila: Yaave
Indonesian: YAHWEH
Kala Lagaw Ya: Iehovan
Mende: Yewoi
Mohawk: Yehovah
Muskogee: Cehofv
Navajo: Jiho'vah
Polish: Jehowa
Portuguese: Iahve
Tongan: Sihova
Zande: Yekova

These are just a few of the renderings of God's personal name; I have lists of over a hundred. All of the above are some of the languages spoken throughout the world, that JWs print literature in.

Did you not see that Jehovah is a 13th century RCC invention and did not exist prior? Or do you ignore it as it does not fit your theology? Just wondering...

[tigger2]

[Replying to post 408 by brianbbs67]

You're certainly free to transliterate YHWH in any reasonable way you wish. Or you could honestly just use 'YHWH' as the only personal name of God in the 7000 places it is actually found in the oldest Hebrew OT manuscripts.

If you insist on disallowing the traditional English use of 'Jehovah,' I assume you will also disallow the use of 'Jesus' throughout the NT.