Jesus divinity
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Jesus divinity
Post #1When God impregnated Mary; was Jesus a man or a demi-God or half and half?
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Re: Jesus divinity
Post #21JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Wootah]
Tim is right, while Jesus was on earth, he was completely 100% human. No "demi-god" (that is not a biblical notion), human only.
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That pretty well eliminates a claim of a Trinity, doesn't it?
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PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
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Re: Jesus divinity
Post #23polonius.advice wrote:JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Wootah]
Tim is right, while Jesus was on earth, he was completely 100% human. No "demi-god" (that is not a biblical notion), human only.
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That pretty well eliminates a claim of a Trinity, doesn't it?
Yes. Jehovah's Witnesses are not Trinitarian.
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Sorry to derail this thread. Just pointing out that creature of Heaven have made human babies in the past. So, the Holy Spirit making one is very logical.Tcg wrote: [Replying to post 18 by brianbbs67]
If your claim is true, then the birth of Jesus would have to be viewed as evil. It would be the same kind of evil that led to the flood. God would have needed to destroy almost all life again to rid the world of the evil spirit/human hybrid. Are you sure that's the argument you want to make?
To the others replying to me, The page I posted is from Genesis(JPS)(Tanakh).
These divine beings are not all lumped together as evil. Some were, obviously, or at least their offspring were. That leaves the rest as good.
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This is a very odd response. I didn't address the logic of this claim, but rather that if God flooded the world because of some kind of heavenly creature/human hybrids, why was he not bothered by Jesus if he was a heavenly creature/human hybrid?brianbbs67 wrote:
Just pointing out that creature of Heaven have made human babies in the past. So, the Holy Spirit making one is very logical.
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Re: Jesus divinity
Post #27Are the physical origins of Jesus important for discussing his Nature?Wootah wrote: When God impregnated Mary; was Jesus a man or a demi-God or half and half?
When Jesus defecated (which he most certainly did) was his feces demi-divine or half and half?
The question assumes we have a scientific understanding of the categories God and Man. We don't.
Re: Jesus divinity
Post #28liamconnor wrote:Are the physical origins of Jesus important for discussing his Nature?Wootah wrote: When God impregnated Mary; was Jesus a man or a demi-God or half and half?
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Only if we are going to claim that Jesus is divine.
Post #29
,, don't forget the full passage;2timothy316 wrote: Well, how many spirit creatures have been born of a human couple? Answer: none. Jesus was flesh and blood.
Hebrews 2:7 "You made him a little lower than angels;"
Heb 2:7 You made him a little lower than the angels, you crowned him with glory and honor,
Heb 2:8 you put everything in subjection under his feet." In subjecting everything to him, he left nothing unsubjected to him. However, at present, we don't see everything subjected to him — at least, not yet.
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Re: Jesus divinity
Post #30[Replying to Wootah]
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. . . Technically speaking, God didn't impregnate Mary. Jesus was a mammalian basal shoot growing out of the original root of humanity asexually (as is the case with all basal shoots). Technically, the Church is a genet growing from the same root as Jesus. Impregnation supposes sex. And sex is what got the original human thrown out of the garden in the first place. . . Jesus isn't a product of sex. So God didn't impregnate Mary.When God impregnated Mary; was Jesus a man or a demi-God or half and half?
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