The Body of Christ

[SeaPriestess]

[SeaPriestess]

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 9 by JehovahsWitness]

How could you possibly think that quoting Jesus speaking of the 2 greatest commandments is minimalizing, ignoring and disregarding?

The quote was good, but your comment lead me to believe that you think that discussing how love of God is expressed through obedience to his law and instructions is {may I quote you here?} " just blah blah blah blah"{end quote}.

Maybe I misunderstood, if I did I apologise, but "blah blah blah" is usually taken to mean unnecessary and useless verbage. May I ask for the sake of clarity then, WHAT were you refering to when you say "just blah blah blah"?


JW


ps: You didn't actually answer my question, do you feel so inclined?

[William]

[Replying to post 11 by SeaPriestess]

teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you

Let's unpack that last part.

This is an unknown thing. What were these ones 'taught to obey' which can be clearly shown to be actual commands of Jesus?

The best people have is the bible and the history of Christendom, both of which have things in them which contradict those things within them.

I think you were on the right track with the 'love commandments' so we can at least use those to identify actual stories about Jesus where he can clearly be seen to be showing this in his words and behavior. For surely we have some inkling of what it is to Love.?

As to quoting Paul in post #11, again, we can look at that and see if Love can be identified therein. This method can be applied to anything which presents itself in our lives. If that presented shows something other than, then it can be laid aside.

[SeaPriestess]

[Replying to post 12 by JehovahsWitness]

I just don't get myself caught up in the details of scripture. That's just me and my path and where God has brought me at this time in my life. I'm not judging you for doing the opposite. If all the minutiae has equal importance in your eyes, if God has clearly made it known to your conscience that he wants you to make sure you are living by all the minutiae then that's between you and God and you need to follow that.

[SeaPriestess]

[Replying to post 13 by William]

Amen to what you said. Period.

[polonius]

[SeaPriestess]

[Replying to post 16 by polonius.advice]

interesting...How do you know this?

[polonius]

[Replying to post 16 by polonius.advice]

interesting...How do you know this?

RESPONSE:

I read it in the Bible. Wiki has an outline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_i ... e_of_Jesus

Early Christianity Christianity are recorded in the Acts of the Apostles. Acts 2 records the Apostle Peter, on the day of Pentecost, preaching to the crowds to "repent and be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission (or forgiveness) of sins" (Acts 2:38). Other detailed records of baptisms in the book of Acts show the first Apostles baptising in the name of Jesus.[2][3][4][5] The Apostle Paul also refers to baptism into Christ Jesus.[6][7]

Over time the Trinitarian formula from Matthew 28:19 became popularized. This was further supported by the Didache, which most scholars date to around the year 100.[

1. Acts 8:16
2. Acts 10:48
3. Acts 19:5
4. Acts 22:16
5. Acts 19:1–7
6. Romans 6:3


Jesus wasn't claimed to be divine himself until about 82 AD. The Christians were banned from Jewish synagogues as a result of such "apostasy". See also the gospel of John (c. 95 AD) and the 12 Benediction (Jewish).

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 12 by JehovahsWitness]

I just don't get myself caught up in the details of scripture. That's just me and my path and where God has brought me at this time in my life. I'm not judging you for doing the opposite. If all the minutiae has equal importance in your eyes, if God has clearly made it known to your conscience that he wants you to make sure you are living by all the minutiae then that's between you and God and you need to follow that.

So is 1 Cor 12:12-27 blah, blah blah? What about Matthew 28:19-20 ?

You quoted from both of them ....why?

[SeaPriestess]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness]

I quoted 1Corinthians 12 because the concept is worth a discussion about the "body" of believers and what they can contribute and do. I think there is a very narrow mind set we have now, in the church at large, pertaining to this idea of evangelizing. The idea isn't narrow but the application is. Knocking on doors, riding a bike into bad neighbors to talk to folks, striking up conversations with strangers at the mall to ask them what they would say to God if they died tonight...are looked at as the end all, be all of "evangelizing". If you don't do these things, then you're not REALLY doing what you are called to do. I have an issue with this. A big issue. That is all. I think worshipping with singing and music is sort of narrow minded as well. I love music and singing. I've been blessed in those areas. But not all are called to sing or play an instrument and I think it's wrong for there to be such a huge focus on singing songs. I personally love it, but again, for the body of believers, I think its a small part of the body just as this talking to strangers thing. Not all are called to talk to strangers about Jesus.

The Matthew verses referring to obeying what Jesus commands are very clear. Just read Jesus' words and commands. IF, I repeat, IF there are questions about other parts of the NT and how to apply, just check it against Jesus' commandments and they are :love God with heart, soul, strength and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. The end.