Bible vs History

[Willum]

Noah was supposed to live around 4000 years ago, and his flood.

Which means that the entire population of the globe should have begun repopulating about then.
Why is there no evidence of this?

I mean we have great historic not only evidence, but histories of peoples living before, during and after the flood. Even the Americas.

And though dramatic, this is true of other Biblical events. We have the Sumerians positively ignoring Biblical events as if they didn't occur. The Egyptians not seeming to notice plagues and genocide and so on.

One could go through and notice all manner of things that didn't happen from the Bible, Sodom and Gomorrah, and so on. We can even get good dates for when these things were supposed to occur, by how long people lived for these occurrences.

We can also note that these stories did occur in other people's fairy tales.

How do we rectify these three elements - no one noticed these epic events, the dates they failed to occur and they are other people's fairy tales, together with the truth?

[1213]

Which means that the entire population of the globe should have begun repopulating about then.
Why is there no evidence of this?

What do you think would be the evidence?

I think we have evidence, current population, the stories and the fact that it seems humans have developed things only about 4000 years.

I mean we have great historic not only evidence, but histories of peoples living before, during and after the flood. Even the Americas.

Please show one example?

And though dramatic, this is true of other Biblical events. We have the Sumerians positively ignoring Biblical events as if they didn't occur. The Egyptians not seeming to notice plagues and genocide and so on.

Sumerians have also flood story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_myth

Egyptians and plagues:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipuwer_Papyrus
https://www.arkdiscovery.com/joseph.htm (about the Joseph stone)

I recommend to read the Exodus case by Dr. Lennart Mller, shows quite nicely the connections.

One could go through and notice all manner of things that didn't happen from the Bible, Sodom and Gomorrah, and so on. We can even get good dates for when these things were supposed to occur, by how long people lived for these occurrences.

There is actually evidence for Sodom and Gomorrah. And also in this, the Exodus case by Dr. Lennart Mller is good in displaying them.

Masada plateau is the place and there can be found evidence.
https://thenotzrim.org/sodom-and-gomorrah/

[Tart]

Noah was supposed to live around 4000 years ago, and his flood.

Which means that the entire population of the globe should have begun repopulating about then.
Why is there no evidence of this?

I mean we have great historic not only evidence, but histories of peoples living before, during and after the flood. Even the Americas.

And though dramatic, this is true of other Biblical events. We have the Sumerians positively ignoring Biblical events as if they didn't occur. The Egyptians not seeming to notice plagues and genocide and so on.

One could go through and notice all manner of things that didn't happen from the Bible, Sodom and Gomorrah, and so on. We can even get good dates for when these things were supposed to occur, by how long people lived for these occurrences.

We can also note that these stories did occur in other people's fairy tales.

How do we rectify these three elements - no one noticed these epic events, the dates they failed to occur and they are other people's fairy tales, together with the truth?

As far as the actual flood goes, I couldn't explain this event, because i just dont know. I think if we actually went back to the author of this event in the Bible we could then see exactly what the writer was writing about, their intentions of writing it, and where they are getting this information from, but none of us can do that. So there is a lot of speculation around this event, of what the Bible is truly talking about, but its speculation...

However, I think the repopulating of the world, which is talked about in Genesis 10, has some kind of historic merit. This is where all the kingdoms around the area is talked about, they give a list, and it has historic value. Whoever wrote Genesis 10 had knowledge of all these kingdoms that really existed at that time. So there is some kind of historic value in Genesis 10...

[Tcg]

So there is a lot of speculation around this event, of what the Bible is truly talking about, but its speculation...

That sure sums it up. Speculation.

However, I think the repopulating of the world, which is talked about in Genesis 10, has some kind of historic merit.

Let's examine what causes you to reach this conclusion:

"they give a list"

So, your criteria to determine historicity is whether or not "they give a list."

I can imagine the conversation involved.

Historian1 - "It's historical!"

Historian2 - "How do you know?"

Historian1 - "There's a list!"

I am reasonably sure real historians would need a bit more to go on before they make that determination.

[Jagella]

How do we rectify these three elements - no one noticed these epic events, the dates they failed to occur and they are other people's fairy tales, together with the truth?

The entire Bible--including the New Testament--is essentially mythology either made up by the Bible writers or stolen from pagan religion. At best the Bible's fables may have some basis in history loosely based on real people and events.

[Jagella]

As far as the actual flood goes, I couldn't explain this event, because i just dont know. I think if we actually went back to the author of this event in the Bible we could then see exactly what the writer was writing about, their intentions of writing it, and where they are getting this information from, but none of us can do that. So there is a lot of speculation around this event, of what the Bible is truly talking about, but its speculation...

The Biblical flood myth was stolen from the Epic of Gilgamesh, a much older legend.

[Willum]

[Replying to post 6 by Jagella]

Yes, let's not make this ABOUT the Flood, but the Sumerian's recorded the Flood (a children's story),
before it actually occurred in Judaic myth.

Ho-hum.

[Willum]

[Replying to post 2 by 1213]

What do you think would be the evidence?

Populations growing and migrating sometime after 4000 BCE, noted by Anthropology. Why what do YOU think?

Willum wrote:
I mean we have great historic not only evidence, but histories of peoples living before, during and after the flood. Even the Americas.

Please show one example?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_millennium_BC
Happy?

Sumerians have also flood story.

Sumerians have also flood MYTH.
The Egyptian plagues occurred over centuries, and frogs and others were considered a kind of manna.

Two cities formerly existing, does not prove God nuked two cities...

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 1 by Willum]

My understanding is that nearly all cultures have a flood story so it isnt true to say no one noticed.

[Tcg]

[Replying to post 1 by Willum]

My understanding is that nearly all cultures have a flood story so it isnt true to say no one noticed.

Folks living in the U.S. noticed the Civil War.

Other cultures have noticed wars that effected them.

Neither of these facts are evidence of a global war.