Bible vs History

[Willum]

Noah was supposed to live around 4000 years ago, and his flood.

Which means that the entire population of the globe should have begun repopulating about then.
Why is there no evidence of this?

I mean we have great historic not only evidence, but histories of peoples living before, during and after the flood. Even the Americas.

And though dramatic, this is true of other Biblical events. We have the Sumerians positively ignoring Biblical events as if they didn't occur. The Egyptians not seeming to notice plagues and genocide and so on.

One could go through and notice all manner of things that didn't happen from the Bible, Sodom and Gomorrah, and so on. We can even get good dates for when these things were supposed to occur, by how long people lived for these occurrences.

We can also note that these stories did occur in other people's fairy tales.

How do we rectify these three elements - no one noticed these epic events, the dates they failed to occur and they are other people's fairy tales, together with the truth?

[1213]

How does the assumption that the Bible is correct establish that there was just one continent at the time? Please explain how a continent is able to collapse.

Bible tells that in the beginning, planet was covered by water. Then God formed earth, dry land, on top of water area. There were pillars of earth that kept the dry land on top of the water and perhaps it was fixed on the edges so that the water could not have escaped, but also supported the land on top of it. Then something happened and the continent got broken and was not stable anymore and thus sunk causing the water to flood massively.

Now the earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters.
Genesis 1:2

To him that stretched out the earth above the waters:"
Psalms 136:6

God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters he called Seas. God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:10

Here are few images that show the princeiple:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/r.berg/Kuvat/Earth.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/r.berg/Kuvat/Flood.jpg

[1213]

We have no destruction via Flood of Egypt, or China, or etc.. or repopulation.

We have many ancient ruins that may have been destroyed by the flood. It is possible that the many of the pyramids of Egypt were made before the flood and were ruined by the flood.

This is one Chinese city that may have been destroyed in the flood:
https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient ... ory-008685

We find no population growth of animals. Indeed we find migration paths that have been established over centuries, we find niche ecosystems that could not have arisen according to either Biblical or flood myth, and so on.

Sorry, I dont see any reason to believe that.

We also have Exodus that has been shown to be false.

Sorry, I am not that gullible that I would believe your claim without any intelligent reason.

[1213]

Here's a challenge for you, 1213. Find me a SINGLE company, based on oil or gas, that is for profit (and thus not ideologically bound) that employs a single creationist who themselves use their creationist beliefs to find oil/gas, instead of old earth science...oh and has struck the black gold.
Where are these successes from the real world that are based on Noah's flood?

Belief in the Noah flood is not necessary in finding oil. But if one would understand the mechanism, it would help in finding oil.

[Willum]

[Replying to post 32 by 1213]

We have many ancient ruins that may have been destroyed by the flood. It is possible that the many of the pyramids of Egypt were made before the flood and were ruined by the flood.

Operative word, may.

Now, why don't you tell me about the Mayan culture absolutely destroyed by the flood, and rebuilt.
The Chinese culture absolutely destroyed, and then rebuilt.

Show me their populations going from vibrant, to nil, as a result of the Flood, and then being rebuilt again, with the same culture, miraculously.

Show me how animal migrated, died, and then began their migrations again.

If it were only tens of thousands of years ago, or even if it were millions, the evidence show be very pronounced.

You can't because - it is a myth.

Sorry, I am not that gullible that I would believe your claim without any intelligent reason.

Quite alright, you won't change your mind with intelligent reason, either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus

"The Exodus is the founding myth of the Israelites."

[rikuoamero]

Here's a challenge for you, 1213. Find me a SINGLE company, based on oil or gas, that is for profit (and thus not ideologically bound) that employs a single creationist who themselves use their creationist beliefs to find oil/gas, instead of old earth science...oh and has struck the black gold.
Where are these successes from the real world that are based on Noah's flood?

Belief in the Noah flood is not necessary in finding oil. But if one would understand the mechanism, it would help in finding oil.

It would be, if Noah's Flood were true and evolution not. The two describe very different worlds, give different conditions for how the world would be. If Noah's Flood were true, one would not be able to use old earth geology and an understanding of evolution to predict where to find oil & gas, since in that world, that geology and understanding would be false.
Oil and gas companies are for profit enterprises. They want to find oil & and gas, so as to be able to exploit the reserves and sell them. Thus, they want to hire the people who are able to show a proven track record in finding oil & gas.
These companies do not hire young earth creationists such as yourself. Ship building companies also do not hire young earth creationists especially like yourself who insist that Noah's Ark would have been sea-worthy in the environment of a global storm. The reason these companies do not hire people like yourself is because people like yourself do not show an understanding of science in the real world.

[1213]

Show me their populations going from vibrant, to nil, as a result of the Flood, and then being rebuilt again, with the same culture, miraculously.

Show me how animal migrated, died, and then began their migrations again.

If it were only tens of thousands of years ago, or even if it were millions, the evidence show be very pronounced.

You can't because - it is a myth.

All things about history can be called myth, because we can't really show how history happened. No one can show anything hapenning in the past, that includes "evolution". We can see only things that are remaining. And that there are ruins from the past, it can be seen as evidence from something that has happened. I think many ruins can be seen as evidence of pre-flood civilizations that were destroyed.

But yes, obviously they were not the same cultures, I meant that in the same areas, there may have been preflood and after flood nations.

[1213]

It would be, if Noah's Flood were true and evolution not. The two describe very different worlds, give different conditions for how the world would be. If Noah's Flood were true, one would not be able to use old earth geology and an understanding of evolution to predict where to find oil & gas, since in that world, that geology and understanding would be false.

I think that is ridiculous claim. Oil was found before evolution theory was developed. There is no need to know evolution theory to find oil.

[rikuoamero]

It would be, if Noah's Flood were true and evolution not. The two describe very different worlds, give different conditions for how the world would be. If Noah's Flood were true, one would not be able to use old earth geology and an understanding of evolution to predict where to find oil & gas, since in that world, that geology and understanding would be false.

I think that is ridiculous claim. Oil was found before evolution theory was developed. There is no need to know evolution theory to find oil.

Was that oil, that first batch of oil ever found, found by predicting where it would be using creationist principles?

[Willum]

[Replying to post 36 by 1213]

I suppose it is too difficult to answer the question by citing any kind of fact or inference.
It is too difficult - all facts demonstrate your religion is a myth.

You really should give it up.

[1213]

...Was that oil, that first batch of oil ever found, found by predicting where it would be using creationist principles?

By what I know, oil was first found randomly. And by what I know, it has not changed much from the ancient times. But, if you think evolution theory knowledge is used in finding oil, please show evidence for that. Do you have any material from oil drilling company that explains how they find oil?