Do humans have a soul ...?
Is it a re-cycled soul ...?
Is it a pre-manufactured soul, sitting on a shelf in Heaven, waiting to flutter down and occupy the result of every successful human copulation ...?
From Whence the Soul ...?
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Post #2The Greek word for spirit is (Genitive case) and is pronounced new-mah-toss. Note that this word is similar to the English word pneumatic which can be defined as "filled with air." So the early Christians as well as many other people of their day believed that our spirits are our breaths and made out of air. When a person died, obviously they stopped breathing, and it appeared to these primitive and superstitious people that the "breath of life" of the dead left their bodies. Along with that breath of life or spirit left that person's thoughts and feelings, and the person's breath or spirit became equated with their consciousness.StuartJ wrote: Do humans have a soul ...?
Is it a re-cycled soul ...?
Is it a pre-manufactured soul, sitting on a shelf in Heaven, waiting to flutter down and occupy the result of every successful human copulation ...?
So in a sense we have souls or spirits if by spirits we mean breaths of air.
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Post #3Rather ask, "What is a spirit?" since a soul is only a word used to describe a spirit that is bonded into a body.StuartJ wrote: Do humans have a soul ...?
Is it a re-cycled soul ...?
Is it a pre-manufactured soul, sitting on a shelf in Heaven, waiting to flutter down and occupy the result of every successful human copulation ...?
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
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Post #4[Replying to post 1 by StuartJ]
It was not so long ago, in some of our own lifetimes, that the mere concept of a cloud of knowledge, able to instantaneously and simultaneously interact with billions of physical conduits- was considered inherently 'supernatural'
We did not invent these possibilities, we just discovered that they already existed.
To answer your question in the wise words of Forest Gump 'Maybe it's both' !
It was not so long ago, in some of our own lifetimes, that the mere concept of a cloud of knowledge, able to instantaneously and simultaneously interact with billions of physical conduits- was considered inherently 'supernatural'
We did not invent these possibilities, we just discovered that they already existed.
To answer your question in the wise words of Forest Gump 'Maybe it's both' !
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I have to concede that I do sometimes wistfully smile at the inventiveness of people of faith in their methods of dodging a question.
No one EVER demonstrates that "God" exists outside their parietal cortex.
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Post #6[Replying to post 1 by StuartJ]
What are you meaning when you ask? There seem to be a number of ideas as to 'what is a soul'.
My own understanding is that a soul is like a storage facility recording an individuals experience of being that individual.
The soul stores the data of experience and is accessed by the individual to shape their personality which develops through the data of experience and the individuals choices.
What is 'The Soul' and is it Immortal?
Do humans have a soul ...?
What are you meaning when you ask? There seem to be a number of ideas as to 'what is a soul'.
My own understanding is that a soul is like a storage facility recording an individuals experience of being that individual.
The soul stores the data of experience and is accessed by the individual to shape their personality which develops through the data of experience and the individuals choices.
What is 'The Soul' and is it Immortal?
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It's a shame we can't harness that inventiveness for something useful.StuartJ wrote: I have to concede that I do sometimes wistfully smile at the inventiveness of people of faith in their methods of dodging a question.
I suspect it will continue to be used for dodges however, especially when clear direct questions are asked that reveal the mythological content of faith.
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Post #8If spirits can exist without bodies, then what are spirits doing stuck to bodies to begin with?ttruscott wrote:...a soul is only a word used to describe a spirit that is bonded into a body.
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Post #9[Replying to post 6 by William]
And which - if any - meaning is real ...?
Hence this topic.
You seem to posit that the soul evolves.
Others will posit that "Every Sperm is Sacred" ...
With acknowledgement to Monty Python.
And which - if any - meaning is real ...?
Hence this topic.
You seem to posit that the soul evolves.
Others will posit that "Every Sperm is Sacred" ...
With acknowledgement to Monty Python.
No one EVER demonstrates that "God" exists outside their parietal cortex.
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Post #10[Replying to post 9 by StuartJ]
In what way do you see my positing such, you do not say.You seem to posit that the soul evolves.

