If God died tomorrow, would we know? How would we know?

[ytrewq]

If God died tomorrow, would we know? How would we know?

Let’s assume for a minute that your God exists. If it (I presume gods are sexless) died tomorrow, or moved to another universe or whatever, would we know? If so, then how would we know?

Presumably atheists would claim that nothing would change. After all, science has no need of gods, so planetary motion would continue, the sky would not fall in, the sun would rise each morning as it always did and so on. And an atheist presumably believes that our morality would not change either.

But what of those that do believe in a God. How would you know if your god died? Would you know at all? How would you know?

[marco]

If God died tomorrow, would we know? How would we know?

Cosmic chaos would result. The Earth that owes its ordered rotation to the fingers of the deity would hurl itself into the sun and perish in a flash. Luckily there would still be a large space bus waiting to transport exactly 144,000 lucky souls to somewhere, but on their arrival they would sadly find the place deserted. No tea made!

The consequences of God's existence are impossible to see, as it is, so we would hardly notice any difference if he departed the cosmos tomorrow - whatever tomorrow would mean to our spacetime deity. Of course there would still be hymns and the Pope would still deliver his message to the city and the world. Plus ça change !

[ytrewq]

If God died tomorrow, would we know? How would we know?

Cosmic chaos would result. The Earth that owes its ordered rotation to the fingers of the deity would hurl itself into the sun and perish in a flash. Luckily there would still be a large space bus waiting to transport exactly 144,000 lucky souls to somewhere, but on their arrival they would sadly find the place deserted. No tea made!

The consequences of God's existence are impossible to see, as it is, so we would hardly notice any difference if he departed the cosmos tomorrow - whatever tomorrow would mean to our spacetime deity. Of course there would still be hymns and the Pope would still deliver his message to the city and the world. Plus ça change !

OK. So ignoring your tongue-in-cheek first paragraph, your answer is that there would be no change at all, because the consequences of God's existence are impossible to see as it is. So presumably that means that we would not know, yes?

[marco]

OK. So ignoring your tongue-in-cheek first paragraph, your answer is that there would be no change at all, because the consequences of God's existence are impossible to see as it is. So presumably that means that we would not know, yes?

I'm not sure that speculating on God's funeral can allow us to reach any solid conclusions. As Voltaire said, if he weren't around we'd have to invent him. As long a folk don't use their God as an excuse to blow me up it matters little what they see as his influence. Horace wrote lovely poems that involved the benevolence or the irritation of gods and that earned him his panem quotidianum, his daily bread.


From the literature of Christianity we might deduce that the angel Gabriel might descend on somebody and announce the death. I suppose there would be a requiem mass in Rome. Otherwise life would go on as it does.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by ytrewq]

I believe God is the source of all life and light, and that all living things exist because they is "plugged in" if you like to that source. If God died, I believe, not only would we die but the universe and everything in it would simultaneously cease to exist.


JW

[Willum]

[Replying to post 5 by JehovahsWitness]

What is the source of a river? God is the source of all light? God is part match?
What you believe, were it true, would be easily shown.

So, you are wrong.

God can't be shown to do anything now, therefore if it disappeared nothing would change, just as this demonstrates, God doesn't exist now.

[JehovahsWitness]

What you believe, were it true, would be easily shown.

Not everything that is true, can be shown.

All posts I write represent my personal faith based beliefs as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Faith based statements are not necessarily "easily shown", some cannot be demonstrated or proven at all, which is where faith comes in.

I said what I believe to true, and when it comes to God dying, not only do I believe the subsequent effects on light and life could not be "easily" shown, I don't believe such a thing can ever be shown, since God dying is an impossibility according to scripture.




JW

[ttruscott]

If God died, I believe, not only would we die but the universe and everything in it would simultaneously cease to exist.

Agreed. This is the reason I think it is plausible that Satan and all who are condmened already and who know it are trying their best to subert Christians and to keep the churches in sin to the end that GOD will get so disgusted with our sinfulness, (remember the flood) that HE will suicide and end it all.

If they have no hope of being forgiven, then this is their next best bet.

[ytrewq]

[Replying to post 1 by ytrewq]

I believe God is the source of all life and light, and that all living things exist because they is "plugged in" if you like to that source. If God died, I believe, not only would we die but the universe and everything in it would simultaneously cease to exist.
JW

How would we die? Would we all suffer a heart attack? Would plants stop growing so we all starve to death? Would the sky fall in, would the sun sun stop shining? Without some detail, your claim that "we would all die" is meaningless as far as I can see.

And can you also give details of how the "universe and everything in it would simultaneously cease to exist." Would it be burnt in some sort of huge bonfire? Where would all the matter in the universe actually go to - some other universe or what? Again, without some detail, your claim simply doesn't mean anything. It's not even wrong.

But even with your lack of detail, it is clear that what you believe would happen is contrary to all known science, which has universally found that the universe does not need a God to keep it running. So I have to ask myself who I should believe, who is more likely to be correct. Should I tend to believe the findings and conclusion of modern science, backed up by the observations and meticulous experiments of millions of scientists over hundreds of years, or should I tend to believe someone on the internet, who gives no detail or evidence for his belief that the universe needs a God to run it? There is no insult to yourself stated or implied here, and I would not claim to personally have more knowledge or wisdom than you do, but my question is still a valid one. I trust it is obvious that modern scientific knowledge is much more likely to be correct, and the universe has no need of God(s) to run it.

If your claim was, um, a little less ambitious, as for example that Christians would no longer "feel" the holy spirit, then that might at least be debatable.

[Willum]

[Replying to post 7 by JehovahsWitness]

I am sorry, but I said, should be EASILY shown.
All you can counter with is "you believe."
That plus $3.50 will get you a latte.

You are effectively saying that you can't measure light from a light-bulb, nor determine whether a cell or person is alive or not, and what that source is.

This might be true if were were in the 1800's. But you're 200 years behind the times.
When you catch up, you'll catch atheism.