Tell me, what is "The Good News?"
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What is "The Good News?"
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Post #241
Where does Jesus teach this. Seems to me that he proclaimed the Good News with a series of declarations that began with the words "Blessed are..."
Also, when he read from the Isaiah scroll in the opening chapters of Luke.
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-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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Post #242
ttruscott wrote: To cut thru all the JW verbiage:
Verbage for some ....GOOD NEWS for those suffering who are looking for hope of a better world!
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Post #243
JehovahsWitness wrote:ttruscott wrote: To cut thru all the JW verbiage:
Verbage for some ....GOOD NEWS for those suffering who are looking for hope of a better world!
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Re: What is "The Good News?"
Post #244Yes, I agree; I presume you are here referring to the God of the bible. If so yes, I agree he is the creator.
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Re: What is "The Good News?"
Post #245EBA wrote: Tell me, what is "The Good News?"
Peace be to all.
John 3:16 wrote: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Re: What is "The Good News?"
Post #246myth-one.com wrote:John 3:16 wrote: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.[/b][/size]
This is possibly the most awful expression of love ever written. It suggests that a father supervised the humiliation, torture and crucifixion of a son in order to feel better about some slight that was done in the past. It is hard to believe one can construct a system of belief on this that has real love as its central force. Is it any wonder that Christianity gave us the torture and burning of heretics and the murder of women branded as witches?
If this is Good News (I'm having my boy killed!) what can possibly be bad?
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Re: What is "The Good News?"
Post #247It wasn't done so that the Father would "feel better about some slight that was done in the past."marco wrote:This is possibly the most awful expression of love ever written. It suggests that a father supervised the humiliation, torture and crucifixion of a son in order to feel better about some slight that was done in the past. It is hard to believe one can construct a system of belief on this that has real love as its central force. Is it any wonder that Christianity gave us the torture and burning of heretics and the murder of women branded as witches?myth-one.com wrote:John 3:16 wrote: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
If this is Good News (I'm having my boy killed!) what can possibly be bad?
It was done "so that whosoever believeth should not die but have everlasting life."
And the Son was totally good with the plan!
I think many humans accept that gaining everlasting life would be good news.
Life is wonderful.
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Re: What is "The Good News?"
Post #248That those who don't agree with such barbarism face an even more dire punishment.
Recently there has been a variety of opinions as to whether the punishment is eternal fire or temporary fire and then permanent nonexistence.
In either case it is a worse outcome than Jesus'. He gave up a long weekend and yet lives still. According to the story anyway.
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Re: What is "The Good News?"
Post #249From bad cometh not good. We can supply as many " so that" clauses as we like, in an effort to make sense of the father having the son killed. In what deranged system is it right to kill an innocent man? The usual explanation is to make up for some theft in a mythical garden.myth-one.com wrote:
It wasn't done so that the Father would "feel better about some slight that was done in the past."
It was done "so that whosoever believeth should not die but have everlasting life."
The victim's compliance does not justify the intention. Many Aztec victims went willingly to be sacrificed.myth-one.com wrote:
And the Son was totally good with the plan!
myth-one.com wrote:
I think many humans accept that gaining everlasting life would be good news.
The proceeds of a vicious act can hardly be good news, but of course the recipients have no say in the matter. They did nothing to justify Christ's death and nothing to merit any benefits.
Many poets have thought so too. We should enjoy the passing seconds, make sense of the natural disasters to which we are heirs and be thankful for the random pieces of good fortune that Fate gives us. Never once in anyone's life does God intrude, even when he is most needed, so why would he show up when the tombstone has been erected? It makes no more sense than having your son killed because a Neanderthal bit an apple or a pear.myth-one.com wrote:
Life is wonderful.
Christ probably thought he was the harbinger of new life, which he would prepare in the sky before the end of the first century. He was wrong but it was a nice idea.
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Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13)