Chalk is the microscope remains of untold billions of once living creatures compressed into a soft sedimentary rock.
In places it can be in the hundreds of feet thick.
Surely it wasn't created in the short time of the flood.
Doesn't this show that death reigned supreme long before Adam sinned?
Did God create chalk deposits?
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Post #41
[Replying to post 39 by EarthScienceguy]
the chalk deposits are consist almost entirely of the organisms that exist in sunlit low nutrient water. That is they are self limiting. In high nutrient situations they are out competed by different orgisms and the limits of light penetrating the water.
In places the calciferous ooze in parts of the ocean are over five miles thick. The reason it was and still is composed almost entirely of the same material is because it's what makes it to the bottom without being reabsorbed into the nutrient cycle.
You seem to be waffling on the composition of the chalk? Sometimes remarking on its purity and other times its impurities?
the chalk deposits are consist almost entirely of the organisms that exist in sunlit low nutrient water. That is they are self limiting. In high nutrient situations they are out competed by different orgisms and the limits of light penetrating the water.
In places the calciferous ooze in parts of the ocean are over five miles thick. The reason it was and still is composed almost entirely of the same material is because it's what makes it to the bottom without being reabsorbed into the nutrient cycle.
You seem to be waffling on the composition of the chalk? Sometimes remarking on its purity and other times its impurities?
Post #42
[Replying to post 39 by EarthScienceguy]
the chalk deposits are consist almost entirely of the organisms that exist in sunlit low nutrient water. That is they are self limiting. In high nutrient situations they are out competed by different orgisms and the limits of light penetrating the water.
In places the calciferous ooze in parts of the ocean are over five miles thick. The reason it was and still is composed almost entirely of the same material is because it's what makes it to the bottom without being reabsorbed into the nutrient cycle.
You seem to be waffling on the composition of the chalk? Sometimes remarking on its purity and other times its impurities?
Interestingly the fossils found in chalk never represent the smorgasbord of living things you insist the soup during the flood was made of.
the chalk deposits are consist almost entirely of the organisms that exist in sunlit low nutrient water. That is they are self limiting. In high nutrient situations they are out competed by different orgisms and the limits of light penetrating the water.
In places the calciferous ooze in parts of the ocean are over five miles thick. The reason it was and still is composed almost entirely of the same material is because it's what makes it to the bottom without being reabsorbed into the nutrient cycle.
You seem to be waffling on the composition of the chalk? Sometimes remarking on its purity and other times its impurities?
Interestingly the fossils found in chalk never represent the smorgasbord of living things you insist the soup during the flood was made of.
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Post #43
[Replying to postroad]
t should also be noted that phytoflagellates such as these are able to feed on bacteria, that is, planktonic species are capable of heterotrophism (they are ‘mixotrophic’). Such bacteria would have been in abundance, breaking down the masses of floating and submerged organic debris (dead fish, plants, animals, etc.) generated by the flood. Thus production of coccolithophores and foraminifera is not dependent on sunlight, the supply of organic material potentially supporting a dense concentration.
Encyclop&ælig;dia Britannica, 15th edition, 1992, 26:283.
English chalk bed fossils include many big seafloor animals like sponges, corals, bryozoans (lace corals), brachiopods (lamp shells), bivalves (clams), gastropods (snails), ammonites, nautiloids, belemnites, arthropods (crabs and lobsters), and echinoderms (crinoids, starfish, and anemones).4 The chalk beds also contain a host of other creatures—the fossilized jaws and teeth of fish, and fossil remains of turtles, ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, marine lizards, flying reptiles (pterosaurs), and even dinosaurs, which lived on land.
for the second timethe chalk deposits are consist almost entirely of the organisms that exist in sunlit low nutrient water. That is they are self limiting. In high nutrient situations they are out competed by different organisms and the limits of light penetrating the water.
t should also be noted that phytoflagellates such as these are able to feed on bacteria, that is, planktonic species are capable of heterotrophism (they are ‘mixotrophic’). Such bacteria would have been in abundance, breaking down the masses of floating and submerged organic debris (dead fish, plants, animals, etc.) generated by the flood. Thus production of coccolithophores and foraminifera is not dependent on sunlight, the supply of organic material potentially supporting a dense concentration.
Encyclop&ælig;dia Britannica, 15th edition, 1992, 26:283.
In places the calciferous ooze in parts of the ocean are over five miles thick. The reason it was and still is composed almost entirely of the same material is because it's what makes it to the bottom without being reabsorbed into the nutrient cycle.
There are lots of different types of limestone but only a small portion is chalk. It is called chalk because of the purity.All limestones have over 50 per cent calcium carbonate and true limestones have over 90 per cent calcite. Much of the Carboniferous limestones and parts of the Cretaceous chalk of England have less than one per cent impurities.
However, most sedimentary rocks (and limestone is no exception) have a mixture of impurities — these might be sand grains, silt, mud, etc.
A rock that has more than 50 per cent impurities is not a limestone (but it might be a calcareous sandstone or a calcareous mudstone)
https://www.bgs.ac.uk/discoveringGeolog ... ition.html
Are you saying that chalk doesn't have fossils in it? Would you have any evidence for this belief?You seem to be waffling on the composition of the chalk? Sometimes remarking on its purity and other times its impurities?
Which one of the following are you saying is not in chalk?Interestingly the fossils found in chalk never represent the smorgasbord of living things you insist the soup during the flood was made of.
English chalk bed fossils include many big seafloor animals like sponges, corals, bryozoans (lace corals), brachiopods (lamp shells), bivalves (clams), gastropods (snails), ammonites, nautiloids, belemnites, arthropods (crabs and lobsters), and echinoderms (crinoids, starfish, and anemones).4 The chalk beds also contain a host of other creatures—the fossilized jaws and teeth of fish, and fossil remains of turtles, ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, marine lizards, flying reptiles (pterosaurs), and even dinosaurs, which lived on land.
Post #46
[Replying to post 2 by mgb]
Not all Christians believe that. Many believe it's quite literal, even today.
Not saying they're right, but it goes to show that with the same text and the same 'divine insight' people can come to completely different understandings.
Which should, in all honesty, cast the entire bible in to consideration for not being 'literal'.
Not all Christians believe that. Many believe it's quite literal, even today.
Not saying they're right, but it goes to show that with the same text and the same 'divine insight' people can come to completely different understandings.
Which should, in all honesty, cast the entire bible in to consideration for not being 'literal'.
Re: Did God create chalk deposits?
Post #47[Replying to post 1 by postroad]
I once heard church leaders, when asked how dinosaurs played in to the young earth creationism myth, they said, basically, that the devil would do things to confuse people and make them doubt God.
Which was a good counter, but very expected and not something easily debated against. It was their last straw and making their point 'unbeatable'.
But that's what happens when you try to be logical with people who forego logic in favor of faith that makes their life better and fosters an environment when they can be intellectual lazy and inept.
I once heard church leaders, when asked how dinosaurs played in to the young earth creationism myth, they said, basically, that the devil would do things to confuse people and make them doubt God.
Which was a good counter, but very expected and not something easily debated against. It was their last straw and making their point 'unbeatable'.
But that's what happens when you try to be logical with people who forego logic in favor of faith that makes their life better and fosters an environment when they can be intellectual lazy and inept.