Jesus preaching hate?

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Wasnt Jesus said to preach Love one another and Love your enemies?

Why then demand that disciples HATE those close to them?

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. KJV

Does that make sense to anyone? Explain.

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Just from a wisdom point of view if you don't hate losing you will not start trying to win. If yodon't hate sugar you will keep eating it. Or another way, if someone says to you they wish they were 10kgs lighter you can know they are lying. You know when they lose 10kgs that they hated being 10kgs heavier.

Interesting.

Is this a life view based on hate? Does this come from religion? Or is it something made up in attempt to defend religious promotion of hate?

Do people lose weight by developing a hate for sugar? Really?

Do people not succeed unless they hate failing? Really?

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[Replying to post 10 by Jagella]

Yes, it is essentially correct that we study Greek and Hebrew not to mention other languages like Aramaic and Latin to try to know what the heck the New Testament writers were saying. According to Bible scholar Hector Avalos, it is common for Bible scholars to deliberately mistranslate the "original" texts for theological reasons or to cover up embarrassing passages. But he says that even those texts cannot be trusted because they are only first known as late as the middle ages and come from known forgers.

Therefore, what you are claiming is that Overcomer is correct and the premise that the Christ was preaching "hate" is not verifiable, thus false. Where, we cannot just take a single verse or a few of them and conclude the intent of the original writer. We would always need to review the whole context, study similar references and use common sense to conclude what the writer was trying to relate to his readers. Hence, it would seem obvious that the attempt to discredit the Christ by, the OP and others, is probably due to a misguided understanding or something worst.

Interestingly, Hector Avalos (bible scholar?) is an atheist and would be considered bias to the writings of the bible, since he doesn't accept that God/gods exist. So, not only do we need to question some of the translated words of the bible, but also those scholars, who claim that they know the real story.

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Interestingly, Hector Avalos (bible scholar?) is an atheist and would be considered bias to the writings of the bible, since he doesn't accept that God/gods exist. So, not only do we need to question some of the translated words of the bible, but also those scholars, who claim that they know the real story.

Yes, of course, lets question the credentials of those who disagree with the party line about Bible tales. If someone disagrees it MUST be because they are an Atheist " not because they have studied the matter and reached reasoned conclusions.

Hector Avalos is Professor of Religious Studies [Iowa State]. An anthropologist and biblical scholar by training, Avalos has published work in areas such as the role of religion in violence, health care in the ancient world, Disability Studies, religion among US Latinas/os, and the relationship between science and religion. His most recent work has concentrated on examining the extent to which religious biases still affect the study of biblical history, translations, archaeology, and ethics.

PhD Harvard (1991) MTS Harvard Divinity School (1985) BA University of Arizona (1982), Anthropology and Classics
https://www.philrs.iastate.edu/directory/hector-avalos/

Let's just consider the words and works of those who agree with us and dismiss others because - - - because they do not agree. A search for truth -- or confirmation bias?