https://www.gayly.com/blackwell-oklahom ... ay-away�
If this story is true the church members are a bunch of evil psychos who should be prosecuted and the church closed.
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Sorry the link I previously posted didn't work, try this one.
https://www.kitv.com/story/41046595/bla ... e-gay-away
https://www.kitv.com/story/41046595/bla ... e-gay-away
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What's the debate question? i.e. Can you pray away gay?
Given that prayer has been shown to have no observable effect other than perhaps making the person doing the praying feel better, "praying away gay" is obviously ineffective. If it were effective, there would be no gay people.
In fact, if God doesn't want people to be gay, perhaps he should just wave his magic wand and do it himself. Why the need for anyone to petition God to do what he wants to be done? Is he a procrastinator or something?
What's the debate question? i.e. Can you pray away gay?
Given that prayer has been shown to have no observable effect other than perhaps making the person doing the praying feel better, "praying away gay" is obviously ineffective. If it were effective, there would be no gay people.
In fact, if God doesn't want people to be gay, perhaps he should just wave his magic wand and do it himself. Why the need for anyone to petition God to do what he wants to be done? Is he a procrastinator or something?
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Homosexual activity is condemned in the bible and while someone may always have to struggle with such urges they can break free from a homosexual lifestyle and become Christians and still lead happy and productive lives. It happened in bible times and it happens today.
FURTHER READING Is Homosexuality Wrong?
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/t ... ity-wrong/
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FURTHER READING Is Homosexuality Wrong?
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/t ... ity-wrong/
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As is remarriage, eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics. So what?JehovahsWitness wrote: Homosexual activity is condemned in the bible
Is this claim based on personal experience, testimonials, religious propaganda?JehovahsWitness wrote: and while someone may always have to struggle with such urges they can break free from a homosexual lifestyle
Can a person not be a Christian if they are homosexual?JehovahsWitness wrote: and become Christians
People of all genders, sexual orientations, lifestyles can lead happy and productive lives when they are not ostracized by zealots.JehovahsWitness wrote: and still lead happy and productive lives.
If concerned about happiness and productivity we should refrain from minding the personal business of others -- and avoid imposing religious beliefs on others -- and, above all, stop claiming knowledge of proposed supernatural entitiesJehovahsWitness wrote: It happened in bible times and it happens today.
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Of course you can't pray to have someone 'cured' because they are gay. It is not an illness there is nothing wrong with being gay, one should be comfortable in the skin one is in. It is anti-gay bigots who the ones who are sick in the head.
Of course you can't pray to have someone 'cured' because they are gay. It is not an illness there is nothing wrong with being gay, one should be comfortable in the skin one is in. It is anti-gay bigots who the ones who are sick in the head.
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So people that respect the bible and believe it is the Word of God do not engage it. One cannot be one of Jehovah's Witnesses for example, live an openly gay lifestyle as our religion is based on the bible.Zzyzx wrote: .... So what?JehovahsWitness wrote: Homosexual activity is condemned in the bible
Yes.Zzyzx wrote:Is this claim based on personal experience, testimonials, ....?JehovahsWitness wrote: and while someone may always have to struggle with such urges they can break free from a homosexual lifestyle
A person can live with same sex attraction and be a Christian but the bible is clear, one cannot be an unrepentant fornicator (whether it is same sex or heterosexual activity) and be part of the true Christian congregation. We dont imposse our beliefs on others but we reserve the same right to voice them as anyone else.Zzyzx wrote: Can a person not be a Christian if they are homosexual?
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The article doesn't answer the question.JehovahsWitness wrote: FURTHER READING Is Homosexuality Wrong?
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/t ... ity-wrong/
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Bust Nak wrote:The article doesn't answer the question.JehovahsWitness wrote: FURTHER READING Is Homosexuality Wrong?
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/t ... ity-wrong/
Ok, maybe I should have posted this article instead
What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality?
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/q ... sexuality/
God created humans to engage in sex only within the arrangement of marriage between a male and a female. (Genesis 1:27, 28; Leviticus 18:22; Proverbs 5:18, 19) The Bible condemns sexual activity that is not between a husband and wife, whether it is homosexual or heterosexual conduct. (1 Corinthians 6:18) This includes intercourse, fondling another person's genitals, and engaging in oral or anal sex.
You can read the FULL article by clicking on the link.
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One often needs to turn to one's Old Testament to justify one's bigotry.
One's Old Testament also forbids bacon cheeseburgers.
One may then reveal oneself as a hypocrite as well as a bigot.
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.
"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.
"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.