Why does the media try to discredit Christianity?

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Why does the media try to discredit Christianity?

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Time and again the media claim that they have made startling discoveries about Christianity. To the common people who have not been educated in the history of Christianity, such presentations seem like eye openers, because, the presentations have scholarly pretenses. In reality, they are full of false information, unrealistic speculations and fiction. The De Vinci code was history mixed with fiction that made fiction appear like real history. Judas' Gospel, that were written by Gnostics (who were at odds with Christians) long after the real Gospels were written, had been discredited by scholars a long ago; yet it resurfaced as some new discovery in the media. More recently, they took an archeological findings of the early nineteen eighties, in which grave of a Jewish family was discovered, and tried to imply that it was the grave of Jesus and his family; although none of his family members lived in Jerusalem (where the grave was discovered) and the chief archeologist of the excavation found no connection between Jesus and the grave.

The media is anti-Christian, because, they are opposed to Christian teachings. Christianity teaches about unconditional love, in which, Christians, like Jesus, are called to love their enemies and compensate for the offenses of their offenders by sacrificing their own interest. Christians are also called to protect every human life, including those in the fetal and embryonic stages, and respect marital union as holy, permanent and life-giving. Christians, therefore, oppose contraception, artificial reproductive techniques, destruction of embryo for any reason, euthanasia, divorce, fornication, sexual immorality and perversities, gay union, and self-interest. The media, which espouses all these things, therefore, does not like Christianity. To them, Jesus is the stumbling block, because, in Jesus the reality of God, as pure, sacrificial, all forgiving is revealed. Jesus, therefore, is their prime target.

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Time and again the media claim that they have made startling discoveries about Christianity.
I would have thought that was a good thing.
arunangelo wrote: To the common people who have not been educated in the history of Christianity, such presentations seem like eye openers, because, the presentations have scholarly pretenses.
If they are done in a scholarly manner, open to peer review, they are not pretenses are they?
arunangelo wrote: In reality, they are full of false information, unrealistic speculations and fiction. The De Vinci code was history mixed with fiction that made fiction appear like real history.
Many, myself included, are of the opinion the bible is fiction mixed with a modicum of history made to look like real history.
arunangelo wrote: Judas' Gospel, that were written by Gnostics (who were at odds with Christians) long after the real Gospels were written, had been discredited by scholars a long ago; yet it resurfaced as some new discovery in the media.
Discredited (in toto) or discredited by apologist scholars who did not like their religion being challenged by alternate views of the supposed life of Christ.
arunangelo wrote: The media is anti-Christian,
Assuming the 'media' (whatever that is) is anti-christian (i.e. offering a differnt point of view to yours) do you think christianity should be some sort of 'protected species' against which no one can offer a dissenting opinion?
arunangelo wrote: ...because, they are opposed to Christian teachings.
Actualluy you might find they are not against the teachings thenmselves but the christian wish to impose christian beliefs on society at large. i.e. create a theocracy
arunangelo wrote: Christianity teaches about unconditional love, in which, Christians, like Jesus, are called to love their enemies and compensate for the offenses of their offenders by sacrificing their own interest. Christians are also called to protect every human life, including those in the fetal and embryonic stages, and respect marital union as holy, permanent and life-giving. Christians, therefore, oppose contraception, artificial reproductive techniques, destruction of embryo for any reason, euthanasia, divorce, fornication, sexual immorality and perversities, gay union, and self-interest.
Why right does christianity have to force their agenda on those that do not hold it?
arunangelo wrote: The media, which espouses all these things, therefore, does not like Christianity..
Aww poor poor christians, still persecuted after all thse years.
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arunangelo:
Time and again the media claim that they have made startling discoveries about Christianity. To the common people who have not been educated in the history of Christianity, such presentations seem like eye openers, because, the presentations have scholarly pretenses. In reality, they are full of false information, unrealistic speculations and fiction.
Are you considering media as a whole, or just certain types? Last I heard, the movie Mel Gibson put out about the life of Christ was fairly accurate (Sorry, don't remember the title, didn't have any desire to see it). Funny how you say that the common people who haven't been educated in Christianity might see these as "eye openers". Tell me, who should these people be going to for the wonderful education in Christianity? Sunday school? Sure, they really know what they are talking about, not. The bible? Even your top scholars can't agree on what interpretaton is correct. And exactly which denomination of Christianity should the education include? Baptist, Protestant, Catholic, etc......
The De Vinci code was history mixed with fiction that made fiction appear like real history.
Last I checked, this book was found under the fiction category at the library and bookstores. And the movie isn't found under documentaries or biographies, just simple drama (and boring at that).
Judas' Gospel, that were written by Gnostics (who were at odds with Christians) long after the real Gospels were written, had been discredited by scholars a long ago; yet it resurfaced as some new discovery in the media.
Really, where do you get your information on who wrote the Gospel of Judas? I know there are opinions, but apparently you seem to say that you know a fact. How? And exactly what scholar discredited it? Christian scholars? The heresy hunters of the time? And was it the Gnostics who were at odds with Christians of the time or was it the Christians who were at odds with the Gnostics? Last I recall, history shows that the Christians were the ones who slaughtered those who didn't join into mainstream Chrsitianity. Or are you one of those who will say "Those were the Catholics, and they aren't Christians" and deny your history so you don't have to feel the taint of your own history? I don't believe the Gnostics got a say in what went into the bible. How many ancient texts were destroyed because they were considered heretical because they didn't paint such a rosy picture of Christianity? No, we shouldn't consider any of these valid because they were put into the Holy Bible. Sure, that makes sense.
The media is anti-Christian, because, they are opposed to Christian teachings.
The media is sensationalism. They are anti whatever sells papers and gains watchers. But I don't think I would go to the extremes and say they are opposed to anything specific, certainly not Christianity. I don't consider religion important enough for the media to focus its attention soly on discrediting it.
Christianity teaches about unconditional love, in which, Christians, like Jesus, are called to love their enemies and compensate for the offenses of their offenders by sacrificing their own interest. Christians are also called to protect every human life, including those in the fetal and embryonic stages, and respect marital union as holy, permanent and life-giving. Christians, therefore, oppose contraception, artificial reproductive techniques, destruction of embryo for any reason, euthanasia, divorce, fornication, sexual immorality and perversities, gay union, and self-interest. The media, which espouses all these things, therefore, does not like Christianity. To them, Jesus is the stumbling block, because, in Jesus the reality of God, as pure, sacrificial, all forgiving is revealed. Jesus, therefore, is their prime target.
Christianity as unconditional love? Perhaps you should look up unconditional. Unconditional means you love a person despite their shortcomings. If Jesus preached that type of love, then why is there a hell? If His love is unconditional, then He should love me despite my inability to find a reason to believe in Him.
Tell me, what of your own interests have you sacrificed? If Christians are suppose compensate for their offenders, what have you sacrificed?

Exactly what scripture states Christians are called upon to protect every human life? Even embryonic? And to what measures are you called upon to use to protect them? Bombing clinics, killing doctors, etc......? Where in the bible does it tell you what you should be doing in regards to this? If God wishes to protect human life, then He will. I don't think He charges you with this task anywhere in the bible.
Christians have no right to infer their beliefs onto any other population. You say you are opposed to contraception, artificial reproduction, abortion, euthanasia, divorce, etc.... Great, good for you. But what makes you so special that you think you have the right to dictate to me or the media what we should be opposed to?

I doubt anyone is targeting Christ for the resons you have cited. Perhaps more along the lines of the inconsistencies of His teachings, the validity of His existence, the validity of his divinity, etc..... In reality, the media has no need to discredit Him. The bible and the hypocrites who claim to be Christians as they clearly don't practice what He preached have successfully done this for them.
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Because they're ideologically aligned with the secular left. Fairly self-evident. Sure, the media's musings on religion in general - and Christianity in particular - are lame, sensationalist, and ill-informed, but critical thinking is the counter to that, not censorship or anything like that.

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...and the religious' musings on science in general - and Evolution in particular - are lame, sensationalist, and ill-informed, but critical thinking is the counter to that, not censorship or anything like that.



We're (all) only human after all.
To the believer, no proof is necessary; to the skeptic, no proof is enough.

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LightGrenade04 wrote:Because they're ideologically aligned with the secular left. Fairly self-evident. Sure, the media's musings on religion in general - and Christianity in particular - are lame, sensationalist, and ill-informed, but critical thinking is the counter to that, not censorship or anything like that.
This is a succinct answer to the question asked. I would only add that the media promotes a materialist or "scientific" world view which excludes the admission of transcendent truths.

James.

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WelshBoy wrote:...and the religious' musings on science in general - and Evolution in particular - are lame, sensationalist, and ill-informed, but critical thinking is the counter to that, not censorship or anything like that.



We're (all) only human after all.
I would agree with this assessment of Creationism/ID.

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James wrote:This is a succinct answer to the question asked. I would only add that the media promotes a materialist or "scientific" world view which excludes the admission of transcendent truths.

James.
Thanks. Although applying the word "scientific" (even in "" as you did) to their worldview is a bit of a misnomer; they're no less metaphysical than anything else, they're simply materialistic/naturalistic. I do know what you meant though, and I agree.

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LightGrenade04 wrote:Thanks. Although applying the word "scientific" (even in "" as you did) to their worldview is a bit of a misnomer; they're no less metaphysical than anything else, they're simply materialistic/naturalistic. I do know what you meant though, and I agree.
Your comment on the word "scientific" implies (I think) that you have perhaps formulated a critique of the claims of Science to be considered as an objective authority on the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world.

It might be a hi-jack of this thread if I asked you to explain what you mean by saying that the scientific world view has a "metaphysical" basis. But I should be interested to follow your reasoning - if you care to elaborate either here or elsewhere.

James.

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The media is anti-Christian, because, they are opposed to Christian teachings.
I'm having trouble identifying any media that actually is anti-christian.

As far as I can tell, almost all the US media is dominated by the views of conservative christian socio-political activists. See for example:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature ... verse.html

I think the christians are so used to getting everything their own way that if something is biased towards them only 99.9% they pitch a fit like a baby without a bottle.

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