I've seen some on here mention they are 'a slave to Christ'.
Does this mean exactly what it says?
Is it symbolic?
Is it even healthy?
Or should every Christina consider themselves, a 'slave to Christ' in the most strict standards?
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I'll let the wise poster Wootah address this accusation:Wootah wrote:
Which is it for you: a slave or no free will?
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This is the awful tactic of accusing someone of something so they have to defend it.
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I'm going to have to raise this in a new thread. Fyi.JehovahsWitness wrote:Menotu wrote:Sounds very much like a man-dog relationship. But I love my dog and wouldn't allow her to spend a burning eternity. I suppose that's the difference.Red Wolf wrote: Do you Christians want to be God's slave back in the Garden of Eden? Do you want to run naked through God's garden, and then run to God when he whistles? Do you want to lie at God's feet and eat fresh fruit from God's hand?
Do you believe the God of the bible threatens the disobedient with eternal burning in Hellfire? We are no longer in the dark ages... people have access to scripture now and dont have to believe what that their clergy tell them the bible teaches (thank God!).
I find that most atheists I have talked to hold to the biblical interpretations they were indoctrinated with as children, and true to the nature of indoctrination, will argue for those interpretations even as adults, often never having studied alternatives. Which is a shame since they are rejecting a notion of God their church or priest told them about and may well reconsider if they let go of such unbiblical idea as the immortality of the soul or the existence of a place where such "souls" are tortured.
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It is astounding when theists claim to know what atheists have or have not studied. What isn't surprising is that they don't include any actual evidence to support their conclusions which are, at least in this case, drawn from an astonishingly small sample.JehovahsWitness wrote:
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Lol. There is a difference between asserting something in an OP and reasoning to a conclusion.
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I'm sorry but marriage was once defined as a man and a woman and that changed. Dictionary definitions are descriptions at a slice in time. Please stop with that.
Everyone on the train this morning knows I am correct.
I'm sorry but marriage was once defined as a man and a woman and that changed. Dictionary definitions are descriptions at a slice in time. Please stop with that.
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Well, don't leave us in suspense. Please describe that difference and how it applies here.Wootah wrote:Lol. There is a difference between asserting something in an OP and reasoning to a conclusion.
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If this discussion were being held on this train:Wootah wrote:
Everyone on the train this morning knows I am correct.
You could perhaps have a valid point.
Given that this discussion is being held on a forum that includes those, myself included, that disagree with you, your claim of absolute agreement is invalid.
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Re: Slave
Post #38It is not a good relationship but better than the Jews had with Yahweh in the Old Testament. He is the most despicable character in all of fiction.Menotu wrote:That doesn't sound like a good relationship at all. At the very least, it's one sided.amortalman wrote:Slaves are subject to their master's every whim. Please them or you're gonna get whacked. So yes, Christians are slaves of the god-man.Menotu wrote: I've seen some on here mention they are 'a slave to Christ'.
Does this mean exactly what it says?
Is it symbolic?
Is it even healthy?
Or should every Christina consider themselves, a 'slave to Christ' in the most strict standards?
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Re: Slave
Post #39I think all Christians should take this literally. Of course, as a sinner, I disobey God constantly but I do aim to be a slave to Christ.Menotu wrote: I've seen some on here mention they are 'a slave to Christ'.
Does this mean exactly what it says?
Is it symbolic?
Is it even healthy?
Or should every Christina consider themselves, a 'slave to Christ' in the most strict standards?
It's healthy. We are all slaves to something or someone. Slavery is a natural condition. What then we should do is try to be conscious of what we are slaves to and what we want to be a slave to?
Jesus says his yoke is light, I think so, I think that is true. I have had many masters in the past and I think Jesus is working out as my best master so far.
Yes they should consider themselves slaves in the most strict standards and do what Jesus said.
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Re: Slave
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According to the Bible it is okay for you to be beaten as long as you don't die immediately.Wootah wrote:I think all Christians should take this literally. Of course, as a sinner, I disobey God constantly but I do aim to be a slave to Christ.Menotu wrote: I've seen some on here mention they are 'a slave to Christ'.
Does this mean exactly what it says?
Is it symbolic?
Is it even healthy?
Or should every Christina consider themselves, a 'slave to Christ' in the most strict standards?
Thanks for showing readers what Christianity has to offer. They'll probably line up for a chance to be slaves.Wootah wrote: It's healthy. We are all slaves to something or someone. Slavery is a natural condition.
I choose personal freedom rather than slavery.Wootah wrote: What then we should do is try to be conscious of what we are slaves to and what we want to be a slave to?
No wonder many believers are willing to die for their notions – following a dead man.Wootah wrote: Jesus says his yoke is light, I think so, I think that is true.
Condolences. A history of slavery must affect one's perspectives.Wootah wrote: I have had many masters in the past and I think Jesus is working out as my best master so far.
Baptismal line forms at the left – join up and become a slave.Wootah wrote: Yes they should consider themselves slaves in the most strict standards and do what Jesus said.
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