A world without Religion

[BOgg]

Imagine the banishment of all religions in humanity, what and where would humanity go from there? Would Corporatism become our new God, could Science truly give us hope and morals? Just a thought, what could happen if tomorrow no religions, no spiritual guidance, no form whatsoever of preaching would be allowed about any subject possible? What would the world be like? (I am completely neutral about this.)

[Benoni]

Imagine the banishment of all religions in humanity, what and where would humanity go from there? Would Corporatism become our new God, could Science truly give us hope and morals? Just a thought, what could happen if tomorrow no religions, no spiritual guidance, no form whatsoever of preaching would be allowed about any subject possible? What would the world be like? (I am completely neutral about this.)

This is God's purpose in the end.

What was the first religious act in the Garden of Eden?

How do you discern God's purpose? If from a book, how do you determine which Holy Book , from which God or whether the author was accurate? If directly from a God to you, please report precisely what was said with quotation marks and whether there were any witnesses that overheard the communication.

It would not matter what I say to you so why are you asking?

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 35:

How do you discern God's purpose? If from a book, how do you determine which Holy Book , from which God or whether the author was accurate? If directly from a God to you, please report precisely what was said with quotation marks and whether there were any witnesses that overheard the communication.

It would not matter what I say to you so why are you asking?

So we can determine the veracity of your claims.

It usually goes without saying, but in debate we are essentially trying to show folks we speak truth. In this regard then it is common knowledge that upon challenge of claims, one of the best ways to show one speaks truth, is to present evidence for their assertions.

Can you present such evidence, or do you a priori seek to declare your evidence won't be accepted? This is a bit of a slanderous angle, in that you imply folks are unwilling to accept what evidence you may present - all the while not presenting any. How is it even possible to reject evidence one has yet to present?

You made claims. You got challenged.

Are you willing to support your claims?

Are you willing to retract claims for which you can't offer support?

Now, as to the claims, I'll break them down for further analysis...

This is God's purpose in the end.

Can you offer verifiable evidence for:

1- God exists (thoroughness of investigation and all that).
2- God has a "purpose".

I'll leave the referned material regarding what constitutes such "purpose" for after we establish the truthfulness of the above.

[McCulloch]

How do you discern God's purpose? If from a book, how do you determine which Holy Book , from which God or whether the author was accurate? If directly from a God to you, please report precisely what was said with quotation marks and whether there were any witnesses that overheard the communication.

It would not matter what I say to you so why are you asking?

But it does matter. If not to Flail then to the other readers of these debates who may be undecided on the issues being debated.

You have made a claim to know God's purpose. We would like to know how you arrived at such a conclusion.

[Benoni]

How do you discern God's purpose? If from a book, how do you determine which Holy Book , from which God or whether the author was accurate? If directly from a God to you, please report precisely what was said with quotation marks and whether there were any witnesses that overheard the communication.

It would not matter what I say to you so why are you asking?

But it does matter. If not to Flail then to the other readers of these debates who may be undecided on the issues being debated.

You have made a claim to know God's purpose. We would like to know how you arrived at such a conclusion.

I am sure you would but this is the wrong format and forum.

[Zzyzx]

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You have made a claim to know God's purpose. We would like to know how you arrived at such a conclusion.

I am sure you would but this is the wrong format and forum.

I have started another thread "What is god's purpose?" in which you can expound upon your position in the proper format and forum -- and challenge you to attempt to do so.

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 888#302888

[Flail]

How do you discern God's purpose? If from a book, how do you determine which Holy Book , from which God or whether the author was accurate? If directly from a God to you, please report precisely what was said with quotation marks and whether there were any witnesses that overheard the communication.

It would not matter what I say to you so why are you asking?

But it does matter. If not to Flail then to the other readers of these debates who may be undecided on the issues being debated.

You have made a claim to know God's purpose. We would like to know how you arrived at such a conclusion.

I am sure you would but this is the wrong format and forum.

You should refrain then, from making truth claims you either cannot or will not support or defend when challenged. If the statement was simply your opinion based upon conjecture without evidence, please amend.

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 35:

How do you discern God's purpose? If from a book, how do you determine which Holy Book , from which God or whether the author was accurate? If directly from a God to you, please report precisely what was said with quotation marks and whether there were any witnesses that overheard the communication.

It would not matter what I say to you so why are you asking?

So we can determine the veracity of your claims.

It usually goes without saying, but in debate we are essentially trying to show folks we speak truth. In this regard then it is common knowledge that upon challenge of claims, one of the best ways to show one speaks truth, is to present evidence for their assertions.

Can you present such evidence, or do you a priori seek to declare your evidence won't be accepted? This is a bit of a slanderous angle, in that you imply folks are unwilling to accept what evidence you may present - all the while not presenting any. How is it even possible to reject evidence one has yet to present?

You made claims. You got challenged.

Are you willing to support your claims?

Are you willing to retract claims for which you can't offer support?

Now, as to the claims, I'll break them down for further analysis...

This is God's purpose in the end.

Can you offer verifiable evidence for:

1- God exists (thoroughness of investigation and all that).
2- God has a "purpose".

I'll leave the referned material regarding what constitutes such "purpose" for after we establish the truthfulness of the above.

I see Benoni has made further comment within this thread that doesn't directly address these claims, so let's call this...

3rd challenge.

[Benoni]

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You have made a claim to know God's purpose. We would like to know how you arrived at such a conclusion.

I am sure you would but this is the wrong format and forum.

I have started another thread "What is god's purpose?" in which you can expound upon your position in the proper format and forum -- and challenge you to attempt to do so.

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 888#302888

I do not debate non believers it is a waste of our time.

[JoeyKnothead]

I do not debate non believers it is a waste of our time.

I read...

"I don't debate on a debate site."

"I don't have evidence to convince non-believers, so I just claim whatever I want, and to heck with forum rules."

"I have no way of proving anything I say, and refuse to address those who challenge me to show I speak truth."

"Who cares, as long as I can get on with my preaching."

"Hey, a bunny..."

[Zzyzx]

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You have made a claim to know God's purpose. We would like to know how you arrived at such a conclusion.

I am sure you would but this is the wrong format and forum.

I have started another thread "What is god's purpose?" in which you can expound upon your position in the proper format and forum -- and challenge you to attempt to do so.

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 888#302888

I do not debate non believers it is a waste of our time.

Perhaps you do not understand that this is a debate site that welcomes people of all persuasions, beliefs and convictions. Those who are unwilling to debate non-believers are not qualified to debate -- period -- and are encouraged to preach to one another in Holy Huddle to avoid trashing C&A sub-forum.

I can understand that some believers might hesitate to attempt to debate non-believers. Their bible tales cannot be supported, so only those who already believe will be convinced that they speak truth -- with no evidence other than the bible tales themselves (used to support themselves), plus conjecture, opinion and dogma.


Edited to add: If I was a theist and realized that I could not defend bible tales and claims, I would NOT MAKE SUCH CLAIMS -- particularly on a DEBATE site. I have enough self respect and respect for others to avoid trashing debate threads with trivia if I have no intention of debating.