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Is my statement blasphemy to you?

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'Wootah is one with God and is in God and is equal to God.'

Is my statement blasphemy to you?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:39 pm 'Wootah .... is equal to God.'

Is my statement blasphemy to you?


BLASPHEMY is scripturally speaking abusively of that which is Holy and includes the act of claiming the attributes or prerogatives of God, or ascribing these to another person or thing. (Compare Ac 12:21, 22.). So yes claiming equality to Almighty God YHWH (Jehovah ) would indeed be blasphemous.



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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:45 pm
Wootah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:39 pm 'Wootah .... is equal to God.'

Is my statement blasphemy to you?


BLASPHEMY is scripturally speaking abusively of that which is Holy and includes includes the act of claiming the attributes or prerogatives of God, or ascribing these to another person or thing. (Compare Ac 12:21, 22.). So yes claiming equality to Almighty God YHWH (Jehovah ) would indeed be blasphemous.



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Great so when, for you, a not God being called Jesus claims equality with God.

Why isn't that blasphemy?
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Wootah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:48 pm Great so when, for you, a not God being called Jesus claims equality with God.

Why isn't that blasphemy?
Your sentence is a little hard to read ... but are you implying that JESUS claimed equality with God?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:51 pm
Wootah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:48 pm Great so when, for you, a not God being called Jesus claims equality with God.

Why isn't that blasphemy?
Your sentence is a little hard to read ... but are you implying that JESUS claimed equality with God?
'Wootah is one with God and is in God and is equal to God.'

Jesus said

"I and the Father are one."

"Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me."

"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God"

Now pretend I said those things.

Why is it blasphemy when I say but not blasphemy when not God for you Jesus says it?
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None of the verses you refer to above have Jesus claiming equality God, indeed Jesus was quite explicit about his position vis-a-vis to his Father.

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Re: Is my statement blasphemy to you?

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[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #7]

So none of this is blasphemy to you?

"Wootah and the Father are one."

"Believe me Wootah when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me."

"Wootah, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God"
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Wootah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:36 pm
"Wootah and the Father are one."

JOHN 17:21

... I also want them to be one with us. - CEV
Why should being one with the Father be considered blasphemous when Jesus said that is exactly what he wanted us to be?
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Re: Is my statement blasphemy to you?

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:01 pm
Wootah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:36 pm
"Wootah and the Father are one."

JOHN 17:21

... I also want them to be one with us. - CEV
Why should it be, its what Jesus wanted.
Exactly! A not God being wanting to be like God is the core of blasphemy.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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