Is there an answer to Islamic terrorism?

[marco]

And so beautiful Barcelona joins the list of cities terrorists have attacked. I don't doubt that there are those who will say America and the West are responsible. One of the terrorists apparently wrote of his desire to kill infidels.

I was in Madrid a few weeks ago and had intended to revisit Barcelona and its busy street, Las Ramblas, where the atrocities occurred. So terror is just a breath away, at least here in Europe.

Is it possible for those who want to kill to be educated if not by impious Westerners by Imams? Are those who want to kill "infidels" already known in their home circles? Obviously the scale of this lunacy will grow and we will hear on our screens the fatuous: "They will not win." But they do.

What can we do to ensure "they will not win"? Should the world convert to Islam, at least nominally?

[brianbbs67]

They are at war with us and wish to kill the men and enslave the women and children. Their Islam is Not peaceful. It is not barbaric to defend yourself and attack proactively. That is smart. Just to clue you in to war, the one who dominates and decimates their opponent wins. I do not wish US to lose as I see how the rest of the third world lives. No thank you.

They (whoever they may be) are not at war with us - we are the superpower attacking defenseless civilians all around the globe.

We the USA are the ones trying to kill the Muslim men and trying to enslave the Muslim women and children. We the west are the ones demanding that Muslim women take off their clothes in order to be liberated, as like we have done to our own western women, and they are the only ones defending their self against our invasions.

If the USA could look into a mirror of truth then the USA would see itself as a Country of brute beast trying to bully the rest of humanity into following our own sins and depravities.

You remind me of Neville Chamberlain and the appeasers. History shows that does not work. Have you ever traveled to any of these countries? Or do you live in one now? They are barbaric. They take pleasure in the suffering of others and wish to subjugate evryone they can. Friday night hanging, dismembering and beheading. Every week. To a Jeering crowd. Very popular over there.

They need to go they way of the Nazi. I don't want my family or children under Sharia Law. Much less me. I begin to think you are not even an American, but a Jihhadi parading on the net to push their agenda.

[JP Cusick]

You remind me of Neville Chamberlain and the appeasers. History shows that does not work. Have you ever traveled to any of these countries? Or do you live in one now? They are barbaric. They take pleasure in the suffering of others and wish to subjugate evryone they can. Friday night hanging, dismembering and beheading. Every week. To a Jeering crowd. Very popular over there.

They need to go they way of the Nazi. I don't want my family or children under Sharia Law. Much less me. I begin to think you are not even an American, but a Jihhadi parading on the net to push their agenda.

You and the propaganda machine wants to demonize the Muslims and the great religion of Islam and it is hard for me to argue against your hatred and bigotry as you express in this comment quoted above.

The biggest murderer in the middle east is the USA and our puppet allies.

The local people could hang and cut off heads all day long and still never come close to the huge number of citizens murdered by the American bombs.

You and the propaganda accuses those people for the things that we do - we the USA and puppet allies are the true murderers and we have been doing these atrocities for many long years and years and still ongoing.

The USA blames the dead bodies as the reasoning for our crimes against humanity.

And I do like Neville Chamberlain and his attempt at appeasement because that exposed Hitler and the Nazis to everlasting scorn, and after that the Allies would never accept any peace offer from the Nazis and required total surrender, and that happened because of the Nazi betrayal of Neville Chamberlain. After that the cry of appeasement was declared useless against the Nazis - and it only applied to Hitler and the Nazis because they violated the appeasement.

Today the claim is untrue and unfounded because appeasement is the right way to begin any conflict or dispute, and the rush to American warmongering needs to be stopped.

[Bust Nak]

[Replying to post 122 by JP Cusick]

Don't you find it a bit odd that the resident Muslim here, don't think ISIS is fake; don't think the reports of terrorist on the West are propaganda; are ready to denounce the killing of Westerners. Has he been fooled by the West too?

More to the point, how do you reconcile the belief that the report of terrorism are fake with the belief that the attack in France is real? Ok so you don't think that counts as terrorism, but the attack is real right?

[JP Cusick]

Don't you find it a bit odd that the resident Muslim here, don't think ISIS is fake; don't think the reports of terrorist on the West are propaganda; are ready to denounce the killing of Westerners. Has he been fooled by the West too?

He preaches the word of God - and he has my complete respect.

My view comes from my own as I was raised and trained and brainwashed into the white imperialist mentality and now that I repent of the old brainwashing then I still have the view.

More to the point, how do you reconcile the belief that the report of terrorism are fake with the belief that the attack in France is real? Ok so you don't think that counts as terrorism, but the attack is real right?

I do not say that the reports are fake but that they are inaccurately interpreted and misleading.

The west and the USA calls certain things as "terrorism" and that is done for political propaganda, and so the name calling is not really a lie as it is based truly on their fear and their cowardice.

The OP is titled as "Islamic terrorism" when the religion of Islam is a peaceful loving faith by over a 4th of the population on the planet earth, so the OP is not a lie - it is honestly just based on the overwhelming racial and religious bigotry.

[Bust Nak]

He preaches the word of God - and he has my complete respect.

My view comes from my own as I was raised and trained and brainwashed into the white imperialist mentality and now that I repent of the old brainwashing then I still have the view.

So you are telling me it doesn't bother you one bit that a fellow preacher of the word of God, someone who has your complete respect, don't buy into your conspiracy theory?

I do not say that the reports are fake but that they are inaccurately interpreted and misleading.

The west and the USA calls certain things as "terrorism" and that is done for political propaganda, and so the name calling is not really a lie as it is based truly on their fear and their cowardice.

But you said ISIS is fake!

The OP is titled as "Islamic terrorism" when the religion of Islam is a peaceful loving faith by over a 4th of the population on the planet earth, so the OP is not a lie - it is honestly just based on the overwhelming racial and religious bigotry.

The OP does not imply in any way that all Muslims are terrorist. You are seeing religious bigotry where there is none.

[JP Cusick]

But you said ISIS is fake!

You are taking my words out of context.

ISIS is fake as being a representative of Islam or of any true Muslim.

It is still a real creation of the west to paint the Muslims as the bitter enemy.

ISIS is a true creation based on a pack of lies.

The OP does not imply in any way that all Muslims are terrorist. You are seeing religious bigotry where there is none.

You are twisting the words around - and that is gutless of you.

The slander is that all terrorist are Muslim - and you fool no one by twisting it around.

The shooter in Las Vegas and the church shooter in Texas were not "terrorist" because they were white Americans.

[brianbbs67]

But you said ISIS is fake!

ISIS is a true creation based on a pack of lies.



The slander is that all terrorist are Muslim - and you fool no one by twisting it around.

The shooter in Las Vegas and the church shooter in Texas were not "terrorist" because they were white Americans.

1. IsIS, ISIL, whatever you name the Islamic state moment is 100% real. They announced it themselves before the acronym was used. They want Sharia law everywhere by any means. Just as Nazis and communists sought to enforce their doctrine.

The immense danger you ignore is that once an Evil doctrine is embraced by 1/4 of the earth(potentially), it must be stopped or surrendered too. I like the former.

2. I don't think anyone believes all Muslims are terrorists. Simply impossible statistically to begin with. But, their is a lot of suspicion, based on the message we see preached to most over there.

3. The one in Vegas May have Islam ties. Phillipines is a hot bed. But, that doesn't matter either. Neither one is an Organized movement with a billion followers and donators with one goal in mind of world domination. They are just every day Evil. Demons possess and use many. Willing and unwilling.

You can deny they want to kill us all. That will not stop them from endlessly trying to.

[Bust Nak]

You are taking my words out of context.

ISIS is fake as being a representative of Islam or of any true Muslim.

ISIS represent themselves as true Muslim.

It is still a real creation of the west to paint the Muslims as the bitter enemy.

ISIS is a true creation based on a pack of lies.

Blame that on the Muslims who are bitter enemy of the US. The moderate Muslims suffers because of the extremists.

You are twisting the words around - and that is gutless of you.

The slander is that all terrorist are Muslim - and you fool no one by twisting it around.

All the Islamic terrorists ARE Muslim. That doesn't imply all Muslims are terrorists. That is simple logic.

The shooter in Las Vegas and the church shooter in Texas were not "terrorist" because they were white Americans.

Where are you getting that from? The shooter is Las Vegas is a terrorist regardless of his skin color. The church shooter is not a terrorist because his violence was not based on political or ideological grounds but a personal vendetta against his mother in-law.

[JP Cusick]

You can deny they want to kill us all. That will not stop them from endlessly trying to.

The USA is the one over there trying to murder all of them.

We the USA and our puppet allies are the superpower using our massive military to murder all of them on the other side of the planet earth.

They (whoever they are) do not have the ability to kill all of us, and they (ISIS) does not have any Country, has no headquarters, has no bonafide leaders, has no real army, no navy, no air force, and there is nothing which makes the so called ISIS into a real entity.

We the USA are the murderers trying to murder the civilians in Syria who have virtually no ability to even fight back.

[Bust Nak]

The USA is the one over there trying to murder all of them.

We the USA and our puppet allies are the superpower using our massive military to murder all of them on the other side of the planet earth.

We the USA are the murderers trying to murder the civilians in Syria who have virtually no ability to even fight back.

You have zero evidence that this is happening. We have evidence that terrorists are attacking not just the West, but their fellow Muslims too.

They (whoever they are) do not have the ability to kill all of us, and they (ISIS) does not have any Country, has no headquarters, has no bonafide leaders, has no real army, no navy, no air force, and there is nothing which makes the so called ISIS into a real entity.

No navy nor air force okay. But they do have an army and more importantly they have terrorists cells outside of Syria and Iraq. Let me remind you again of the New York attack this very month.