What are we to make of this?
Do they not realize that they're making Jesus out to be a liar?
"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
(Matthew 24:35)
"He that loveth Me not, keepeth not My sayings. And the Word which you hear is not Mine, but the Fathers who sent Me."
(John 14:24)
"Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #51How about you?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:25 am [Replying to marke in post #46]
So you agree that no one should be allowed to defy court orders. That's good to know.General Flynn was railroaded by corrupt democrat officials who then refused to dismiss the charges against him after being ordered by court to do so.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... t-optional
Vance Says Judges Arent Allowed to Control Trumps Legitimate Power
The declaration by the vice president came as court orders have temporarily blocked parts of the Trump administrations agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/09/us/p ... order.html
Flynn, BTW was fired by Obama, and then by Trump. He's kind of a loose cannon, as well as being a liar.
WASHINGTON (AP) Fired by one American commander in chief for insubordination, Michael Flynn has now been removed by another.
The White House said Tuesday that President Donald Trump asked for the resignation of his national security adviser, a hard-charging, feather-ruffling retired lieutenant general who just three weeks into the new administration had put himself in the center of a controversy. Flynn resigned late Monday.
At issue was Flynns contact with Moscows ambassador to the United States. Flynn and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak appear to have discussed U.S. sanctions late last year, raising questions about whether he was freelancing on foreign policy while President Barack Obama was still in office and whether he misled Trump officials about the calls.
The center of a storm is a familiar place for Flynn. His military career ended when Obama dismissed him as defense intelligence chief. Flynn claimed he was pushed out for holding tougher views than the Obama administration about Islamic extremism. But a former senior U.S. official who worked with Flynn said the firing was for insubordination, after the Army lieutenant general failed to follow guidance from superiors.
https://apnews.com/article/ce90066b4e20 ... 21910da0c7
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #52Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:25 am [Replying to marke in post #46]
So you agree that no one should be allowed to defy court orders. That's good to know.General Flynn was railroaded by corrupt democrat officials who then refused to dismiss the charges against him after being ordered by court to do so.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... t-optional
Marke: Illegitimate court orders should be resisted, like Bannon's resistence of the illegal Jan. 6 House committee subpoena and resulting court judgment designed to flip the 2024 election to democrats.
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #53[Replying to marke in post #52]
Like the article said----if you think a court order is wrong, you appeal. You don't ignore it.
Who gets to determine which court orders are "illegitimate"? Whichever politicians or pundits someone likes?Illegitimate court orders should be resisted, like Bannon's resistence of the illegal Jan. 6 House committee subpoena and resulting court judgment designed to flip the 2024 election to democrats.
Like the article said----if you think a court order is wrong, you appeal. You don't ignore it.
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #54The cult wants it both ways. When Trump loses, then they want to challenge the law. When he wins, they suddenly become law-abiding, again. Fact is, they don't want to be subject to the law. Hence Trump's description of himself as "King" posting an image of himself with a crown.
He wants to be like Putin and kim, subject to nothing at all.
Not like we didn't have warning about this.
He wants to be like Putin and kim, subject to nothing at all.
Not like we didn't have warning about this.
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #55We the People are ultimately to blame for things having gotten as far as they have.The Barbarian wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:38 pm The cult wants it both ways. When Trump loses, then they want to challenge the law. When he wins, they suddenly become law-abiding, again. Fact is, they don't want to be subject to the law. Hence Trump's description of himself as "King" posting an image of himself with a crown.
He wants to be like Putin and kim, subject to nothing at all.
Not like we didn't have warning about this.
We could have required our representatives to be fair or loyal or at least intelligent, but we chose to forgo those criteria. Instead, we've collectively decided that we will put up with absolutely anything elected officials do.....
.....as long as they're entertaining.
When it comes to governance, we refuse to think like adults. We insist on remaining unruly children demanding amusement----at any cost.
I am now firmly convinced that the whole design of the United States government should be restructured into a parliamentary system.
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #56Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:23 pm [Replying to marke in post #52]
Who gets to determine which court orders are "illegitimate"? Whichever politicians or pundits someone likes?Illegitimate court orders should be resisted, like Bannon's resistence of the illegal Jan. 6 House committee subpoena and resulting court judgment designed to flip the 2024 election to democrats.
Like the article said----if you think a court order is wrong, you appeal. You don't ignore it.
Marke: In America we are accustomed to regularly or periodically seeing leading politicians ignoring court orders. The legal debate often must be extended for weeks or months or longer after a court order in order to determine if the court order was legitimate.
https://fee.org/articles/white-house-te ... al-issues/
White House Tells Businesses to Ignore the Federal Court Order That Halted Bidens Vaccine Mandate Over "Grave Constitutional Issues"
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #57Marke: Trump was elected by tens of millions of Americans who were tired of unelected leftist bureaucrats brutally and unjustly ruling over them. Now that Trump is President the leftists want their unjust power back but that does not seem likely to happen in the next few years at least.The Barbarian wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:38 pm The cult wants it both ways. When Trump loses, then they want to challenge the law. When he wins, they suddenly become law-abiding, again. Fact is, they don't want to be subject to the law. Hence Trump's description of himself as "King" posting an image of himself with a crown.
He wants to be like Putin and kim, subject to nothing at all.
Not like we didn't have warning about this.
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #58Marke: Comey admitted he set Flynn up by having agents conduct what was supposed to be an informal interview without telling him they were looking for ways to falsely accuse him of some criminal act. Comey bragged about his ruse just as Senator Harry Reid bragged about lying about Romney in order to give Obama a boost in the 2012 election. Democrats have rejected God and made themselves dirty because of that.The Barbarian wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:59 pmHow about you?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:25 am [Replying to marke in post #46]
So you agree that no one should be allowed to defy court orders. That's good to know.General Flynn was railroaded by corrupt democrat officials who then refused to dismiss the charges against him after being ordered by court to do so.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... t-optional
Vance Says Judges Arent Allowed to Control Trumps Legitimate Power
The declaration by the vice president came as court orders have temporarily blocked parts of the Trump administrations agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/09/us/p ... order.html
Flynn, BTW was fired by Obama, and then by Trump. He's kind of a loose cannon, as well as being a liar.
WASHINGTON (AP) Fired by one American commander in chief for insubordination, Michael Flynn has now been removed by another.
The White House said Tuesday that President Donald Trump asked for the resignation of his national security adviser, a hard-charging, feather-ruffling retired lieutenant general who just three weeks into the new administration had put himself in the center of a controversy. Flynn resigned late Monday.
At issue was Flynns contact with Moscows ambassador to the United States. Flynn and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak appear to have discussed U.S. sanctions late last year, raising questions about whether he was freelancing on foreign policy while President Barack Obama was still in office and whether he misled Trump officials about the calls.
The center of a storm is a familiar place for Flynn. His military career ended when Obama dismissed him as defense intelligence chief. Flynn claimed he was pushed out for holding tougher views than the Obama administration about Islamic extremism. But a former senior U.S. official who worked with Flynn said the firing was for insubordination, after the Army lieutenant general failed to follow guidance from superiors.
https://apnews.com/article/ce90066b4e20 ... 21910da0c7
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #59I notice that many of them are already regretting those votes, seeing how lawlessly Trump and his underlings are behaving...marke wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 8:01 pmMarke: Trump was elected by tens of millions of Americans who were tired of unelected leftist bureaucrats brutally and unjustly ruling over them. Now that Trump is President the leftists want their unjust power back but that does not seem likely to happen in the next few years at least.The Barbarian wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:38 pm The cult wants it both ways. When Trump loses, then they want to challenge the law. When he wins, they suddenly become law-abiding, again. Fact is, they don't want to be subject to the law. Hence Trump's description of himself as "King" posting an image of himself with a crown.
He wants to be like Putin and kim, subject to nothing at all.
Not like we didn't have warning about this.
https://kfor.com/news/trump-approval-ra ... rm-survey/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 967657007/
Three new national polls released on Wednesday indicate President Donald Trump's approval ratings are edging down slightly since taking over the White House one month ago.
Forty-five percent of voters questioned in a Quinnipiac University survey said they approve of the way Trump is handling his job as president, with 49% disapproving.
That's down from a 46%-43% approval/disapproval in a Quinnipiac poll conducted in late January, during the president's first week back in office following his inauguration.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/surpri ... hite-house
When even Fox News admits he's going underwater in the polls, it's bad.
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #60marke wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 8:07 pmMarke: Comey admitted he set Flynn up by having agents conduct what was supposed to be an informal interview without telling him they were looking for ways to falsely accuse him of some criminal act. Comey bragged about his ruse just as Senator Harry Reid bragged about lying about Romney in order to give Obama a boost in the 2012 election. Democrats have rejected God and made themselves dirty because of that.The Barbarian wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:59 pmHow about you?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:25 am [Replying to marke in post #46]
So you agree that no one should be allowed to defy court orders. That's good to know.General Flynn was railroaded by corrupt democrat officials who then refused to dismiss the charges against him after being ordered by court to do so.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... t-optional
Vance Says Judges Arent Allowed to Control Trumps Legitimate Power
The declaration by the vice president came as court orders have temporarily blocked parts of the Trump administrations agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/09/us/p ... order.html
Flynn, BTW was fired by Obama, and then by Trump. He's kind of a loose cannon, as well as being a liar.
WASHINGTON (AP) Fired by one American commander in chief for insubordination, Michael Flynn has now been removed by another.
The White House said Tuesday that President Donald Trump asked for the resignation of his national security adviser, a hard-charging, feather-ruffling retired lieutenant general who just three weeks into the new administration had put himself in the center of a controversy. Flynn resigned late Monday.
At issue was Flynns contact with Moscows ambassador to the United States. Flynn and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak appear to have discussed U.S. sanctions late last year, raising questions about whether he was freelancing on foreign policy while President Barack Obama was still in office and whether he misled Trump officials about the calls.
The center of a storm is a familiar place for Flynn. His military career ended when Obama dismissed him as defense intelligence chief. Flynn claimed he was pushed out for holding tougher views than the Obama administration about Islamic extremism. But a former senior U.S. official who worked with Flynn said the firing was for insubordination, after the Army lieutenant general failed to follow guidance from superiors.
https://apnews.com/article/ce90066b4e20 ... 21910da0c7
But you have no evidence for any of your beliefs?

