Will Christians be protected from Gay social goals?

[Mere_Christian]

Once gay marriage is legalized in most states and forced on those that will not legalize it by the power of Democrat majority in Congress, how will Christians be protected from Gay Activists desiring to force Gay Culture and gay sex on every aspect of Christian life?

[kayky]

That is a skewed question. The therapy in my post was about helping people with an abnormal urge to get to 'normal'. This therapy is about as successful as any other disorder therapists treat people for. It won't work for people with no motivation to change. Religious belief can give people that motivation to leave this deadly lifestyle.

It is not a skewed question, and your answer reveals your bias. You are saying that your sexual orientation is innate and cannot be changed because it is "normal," without recognizing the possibility that sexual orientation is just as inborn and unchangeable for gay people. What is your educational background that you have the authority to declare what is normal and what is not? The American Medical Association has recognized that homosexuality is not "abnormal" nor "deviant."

I can only assume that you are referring to homosexual promiscuity as a "deadly lifestyle." But it is no more deadly than heterosexual promiscuity. Legalizing gay marriage would encourage monogamy among homosexuals. I cannot see how anyone would not recognize this as a plus for society.

It is always possible to do the will of God.

Perhaps. But you do not have the ability nor the authority to even have an inkling as to what God's will might be for anyone other than yourself.

[kayky]

You don't read the news?

What does the news have to do with it? Is there some Bank Robbers Anonymous group out there that I've overlooked??

[Mere_Christian]

You don't read the news?

What does the news have to do with it? Is there some Bank Robbers Anonymous group out there that I've overlooked??

You must have.

It's called prison.

[Mere_Christian]

I want to rob banks, and I have always had this orientation within my feelings for as long as I can remember, but it is not in keeping with the conduct I would like to live by.

Why do you desire to rob banks?

It's exciting and I feel I was born with this orientation.

I've never heard of such a compulsion.

Visit people in prison.

I believe psychology has coined another neologism for it called Conduct Disorder.

[micatala]

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Right to the namecalling, huh? Do you deny there can be a causative element in same-sex attraction, and that change is possible?

Funny how some say change therapy is good for pedophiles, but gays can never change.

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[East of Eden]

It is not a skewed question, and your answer reveals your bias.

So you don't have an opinion, or bias?

You are saying that your sexual orientation is innate and cannot be changed because it is "normal," without recognizing the possibility that sexual orientation is just as inborn and unchangeable for gay people.

They're still looking for that 'gay' gene. We have ex-gays testifying that they have changed, why do you doubt them?

What is your educational background that you have the authority to declare what is normal and what is not?

Using this dictionary definition, gay sex is abnormal. 2 a: according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle b: conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern.

It is the abnormality of gay sex using body parts where they weren't made to go that causes bleeding and bodily harm that spread disease. Do I need to get graphic?

The American Medical Association has recognized that homosexuality is not "abnormal" nor "deviant."

Unfortunately this Politically Correct motivated decision shut down research into the causes of the disorder.

I can only assume that you are referring to homosexual promiscuity as a "deadly lifestyle." But it is no more deadly than heterosexual promiscuity.

Gay males are far more promiscous, with many having hundreds of partners.

Legalizing gay marriage would encourage monogamy among homosexuals.

Your assumption. There is little monogamy among gay partnerships. It makes the idea of gay 'marriage' in such a setting ridiculous.

Perhaps. But you do not have the ability nor the authority to even have an inkling as to what God's will might be for anyone other than yourself.

Your opinion again. I am coming from the position that God exists and is not silent, and has spoken to us through His word.

[Cathar1950]

It is not a skewed question, and your answer reveals your bias.

So you don't have an opinion, or bias?

You are saying that your sexual orientation is innate and cannot be changed because it is "normal," without recognizing the possibility that sexual orientation is just as inborn and unchangeable for gay people.

They're still looking for that 'gay' gene. We have ex-gays testifying that they have changed, why do you doubt them?

What is your educational background that you have the authority to declare what is normal and what is not?

Using this dictionary definition, gay sex is abnormal. 2 a: according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle b: conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern.

It is the abnormality of gay sex using body parts where they weren't made to go that causes bleeding and bodily harm that spread disease. Do I need to get graphic?

The American Medical Association has recognized that homosexuality is not "abnormal" nor "deviant."

Unfortunately this Politically Correct motivated decision shut down research into the causes of the disorder.

I can only assume that you are referring to homosexual promiscuity as a "deadly lifestyle." But it is no more deadly than heterosexual promiscuity.

Gay males are far more promiscous, with many having hundreds of partners.

Legalizing gay marriage would encourage monogamy among homosexuals.

Your assumption. There is little monogamy among gay partnerships. It makes the idea of gay 'marriage' in such a setting ridiculous.

Perhaps. But you do not have the ability nor the authority to even have an inkling as to what God's will might be for anyone other than yourself.

Your opinion again. I am coming from the position that God exists and is not silent, and has spoken to us through His word.

There are a lot of dictionary definitions that are not appropriate to this debate and the dictionary definition you are using is only giving some popular or some uses of the word and doesn't give any understanding of biology or human development.
Most men can be promiscuous.
Why should the rest of the world live by your assumptions?

[East of Eden]

It is not a skewed question, and your answer reveals your bias.

So you don't have an opinion, or bias?

You are saying that your sexual orientation is innate and cannot be changed because it is "normal," without recognizing the possibility that sexual orientation is just as inborn and unchangeable for gay people.

They're still looking for that 'gay' gene. We have ex-gays testifying that they have changed, why do you doubt them?

What is your educational background that you have the authority to declare what is normal and what is not?

Using this dictionary definition, gay sex is abnormal. 2 a: according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle b: conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern.

It is the abnormality of gay sex using body parts where they weren't made to go that causes bleeding and bodily harm that spread disease. Do I need to get graphic?

The American Medical Association has recognized that homosexuality is not "abnormal" nor "deviant."

Unfortunately this Politically Correct motivated decision shut down research into the causes of the disorder.

I can only assume that you are referring to homosexual promiscuity as a "deadly lifestyle." But it is no more deadly than heterosexual promiscuity.

Gay males are far more promiscous, with many having hundreds of partners.

Legalizing gay marriage would encourage monogamy among homosexuals.

Your assumption. There is little monogamy among gay partnerships. It makes the idea of gay 'marriage' in such a setting ridiculous.

Perhaps. But you do not have the ability nor the authority to even have an inkling as to what God's will might be for anyone other than yourself.

Your opinion again. I am coming from the position that God exists and is not silent, and has spoken to us through His word.

There are a lot of dictionary definitions that are not appropriate to this debate and the dictionary definition you are using is only giving some popular or some uses of the word and doesn't give any understanding of biology or human development.
Most men can be promiscuous.
Why should the rest of the world live by your assumptions?

On gay marriage, the rest of the world pretty much does, and has for the last 5,000 years of recorded history.

[Cathar1950]

Perhaps. But you do not have the ability nor the authority to even have an inkling as to what God's will might be for anyone other than yourself.

Your opinion again. I am coming from the position that God exists and is not silent, and has spoken to us through His word.

There are a lot of dictionary definitions that are not appropriate to this debate and the dictionary definition you are using is only giving some popular or some uses of the word and doesn't give any understanding of biology or human development.
Most men can be promiscuous.
Why should the rest of the world live by your assumptions?[/quote]On gay marriage, the rest of the world pretty much does, and has for the last 5,000 years of recorded history.[/quote]
There were marriages between a female and more the male, one male and a number of females, mother and son, brother and sister and all matters of personal relationships and unions. There is no reason why we should limit marriages to what you think has been the norm for the last 5000 years given it is a social institution.

[East of Eden]

There were marriages between a female and more the male, one male and a number of females, mother and son, brother and sister and all matters of personal relationships and unions. There is no reason why we should limit marriages to what you think has been the norm for the last 5000 years given it is a social institution.

In all of your examples, marriage was between a man and woman.