Evolution is stupid

[BigChrisfilm]

GOOD GRIEF WILL SOMEONE GIVE ME SOME PROOF OF EVOLUTION BEFORE I PUNCH MYSELF SQUARE IN THE FACE! LOL.

[BigChrisfilm]

BigChrisfilm wrote:

I didn't look at the link because it was from talkorigins.com.

What have you got against Talkorigins.com, other than the fact that they disagree with you? Did Kent Hovind tell you Satan hosts it or something?

I have something for you to disprove. Do a good job, now--I'm anxious to hear your report. Here it is:

Explain to me why we share viral DNA with chimpanzees. I want to make sure I'm clear. We have DNA left over from viruses that our ancestors passed on to us. Chimps, apes, etc. have the SAME viral DNA that we have.

While we're talking about viruses...are they living or non-living? Viruses, I mean. I'm talking to you, BigChrisfilm.

I just can't wait for your response.

It isn't about the one or two things our DNA shares. How do you explain the many things we DON'T share in DNA. Again, the fact that Apes have the some of the same things we do means they were probly made by the same person. Why don't you explain to me how DNA evolved from a non living organism.

You did not answer Laineys question. Does this mean you cant, or refuse to do so? Which makes the entire topic pointless? You started it to learn did you not? The main question remember? And She asked you something regarding it.

Are you going to answer?

The same reason we have eyes, and monkey do too. Because the same guy made them. lol. Please, I am begging someone to give me some evidence of Evolution, and stop playing ring around the rosey with me.

[BigChrisfilm]

Lainey and Scotum, he can't because it disagrees with him.
Selective reading is part of the creationist war armor.
I would like to know what they taught him is schools.

Creationist have never gone to school, they have something called ´Home Schooling´ which means religious indoctrination. This is illegal in Europe, but what i understand, its fine in the U.S as its a parents ´right´ to teach whatever they want to their children.

But correct me if im wrong, perhaps certain States, such as California, force parents to give their children proper education? And New York State i would suspect have similar view. But the ´Bible Belt´ such as Texas is without a doubt Creationist material. I find it odd that a country have different laws depending on region, that would suggest its not ONE country. I know Texas wanted to be independent until.... Rather recently?

LOL. First off, I have never been home schooled. I went to public school, and graduated from public school. Second, I live in Ohio. So your whole statement is nothing but a laughing stock.

[popgenetics]

The same reason we have eyes, and monkey do too. Because the same guy made them. lol. Please, I am begging someone to give me some evidence of Evolution, and stop playing ring around the rosey with me.

In order for you to see the evidence you must stop denying the evidence. That is the problem with YEC. They spend their time denying the evidence of evolution because they wrongly think that if evolution is true then the Bible is wrong and the only alternative is atheism. How many individuals has YEC caused to turn to atheism because of that position? If evolution is correct, which it is, it does not mean the Bible is wrong, only your interpretation is. Did you ever think that the reason why humans have eyes just like monkeys is because God created them through evolution, or is that too much for you to take? I would suggest that for a clarification of my comments check www.answersincreation.org .

[Wyvern]

No No. I admit my religion is taken by faith. If I was trying to prove my religion as fact, THEN I would have to throw it out. Anyway, explain this to me. Let's say a mutation happens that is better. Then natural selection keeps it alive. Now, what is this mutation going to have sex with? It's just going to get blended back in with the population. Dont you see how this is a flawed idea in the first place.

Another concept of evolution, it deals with populations not individuals. But since you want to switch to genetics fine. Going with your system there would be absolutely no variation within any species since as you say it would get blended back into the population. Your concept of genetics is flawed, each gene is a discrete piece of data. You forget that for this mutant of yours to come about means the parents if they themselves weren't mutants, both were carrying the gene in its recessive form. Maybe this is where you make your mistake, the mutation didn't happen when it got expressed with the child but with the parents at a genetic level, by the time a gene gets expressed it is usually widespread through the population just waiting for its opportunity.

[tiberius]

GOOD GRIEF WILL SOMEONE GIVE ME SOME PROOF OF EVOLUTION BEFORE I PUNCH MYSELF SQUARE IN THE FACE! LOL.

Evolution or survival of the fittest is a very simple idea.
We know that we can breed cat's and dogs into hideous shapes by selective breeding. Well, nature removes unfit animals from the breeding pool via them becoming sick or being preyed on by other animals.
Antelopes are quick at running because the slow antelopes didn't live long enough to have slow antelope children.
If survival of the fittest didn't happen, we'd have a lot of lame horses, slow antelope, cats that couldn't catch mice etc. etc. you get the idea and you can make your own examples.
In short it would be nonsense.

[Scrotum]

I dont understand Big, you ask for evidence, but if anyone gives you this, you ignore it. I dont get the point.


First off, WHAT Evolution are you talking about? Biological? Easy, we have so much that you would puke on it. But the point is you dont accept ANY of it because it shows your religion is wrong, so why do you ask?

Evolution means change, that is, the word. The Theory of Evolution is abou Biology specifically. That Chimps and Humans have similar ancestry as example, and we do, the only thing YOU have to do is to look it up. Why should we give you all this? Do you know how big the subject is? The ONLY thing you have to do is to look it up.

OK, this is against my view, but i will waste my time and give you a source, here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_biology

Now that only EXPLAINS to you what Evolutionary Biology is, as its not ´one field´, its hundreds of different scientific fields that confirm eachother. You have to go through it all yourself to learn and understand it. This is not a 5 min subject if you seriously want to learn about it.



This brings me to another thing about Creationism, Big is clearly a follower of Kent, and as we would never get to debate with him (he does not debate, only hold speeches), i guess i can ask you, as one of his disciples.

When we date the Earth as example, which is now around 4,5 Billion i think, do you think this is done by one person? And one measurement?

It´s not. We have people from other regions of other sciences, that confirms the ages dated. These people do not know eachother, they have nothing with eachother to do. As a simple example so you would understand, it works like this;


A man (lets say individual scientist) using carbon 14 dating (also known as radiocarbon dating) is accurate up to 60 000 years according to current estimates.

Lets say he finds something interesting and dates it, he finds it to be 500 years (1506 AD). So does it end there? No.

Then another man calls him, he, being an archeologist, says he has estimated a certain place to be 500 years old, and it seems that he (the man he called) have also been there dating findings. So now we have two people confirming eachother, which have nothing to do with eachother.

Now a historian shows up, claiming has gone through hundreds of papyrus and different historical events, and found that the place they are examining, to be 500 years old, and asks them: what have you found? Can you confirm or deny my findings?


And once again, we now have 3 people confirming eachother, without having any Dark Illuminati or Satan controlling them. Do you understand Big? Sorry for my poor analogy, but i should be understood, non?

[Easyrider]

Creationist have never gone to school, they have something called ´Home Schooling´ which means religious indoctrination.

The first part of your statement is an absurd overgeneralization. The latter part runs a close second to it.

[Scrotum]

Creationist have never gone to school, they have something called ´Home Schooling´ which means religious indoctrination.

The first part of your statement is an absurd overgeneralization. The latter part runs a close second to it.

HomeSchooling is indoctrination almost by definition, i have no doubt you go against it (i guess it only exist in the States). But yes, i was joking about the first part, as no one with a proper education would believe the earth to be 6000 years old when we have cultures older then that. So i guess history is one part of the education they missed out on?

[micatala]

Easyrider is correct. Asserting that all homeschooling in nothing more than indoctrination is an incorrect over-generalization. The homeschooling community in the U.S. is rather diverse, even though a significant number of homeschoolers are conservative Christians.



[quot"BigChrisFilm"]Well, why should I believe it? You act as if there is so much to choose from that you need to figure out just what I want before you can give me some. The fact is, there is none. Just one peice of evidence that we come from a different kind than a human. How about that.[/quote]


The most telling piece of evidence is that there are no modern humans except in the most recent layers of the fossil record. Assuming that modern humans have ancestors in the distant past, it is quite obvious that those ancestors must have been quite different from us.

Evolution says that beings reproduce after their own kind, essentially the same as the Bible. The difference is that over time, the kind slowly changes. THis is what the fossil record shows.

[theleftone]

Creationist have never gone to school

Most creationists have attended public schools.

they have something called ´Home Schooling´ which means religious indoctrination.

This is not correct.

I would agree most homeschool curriculums contain varying degrees of religious education. I would agree most of these tend to be more fundamentalist in nature. Indoctrination? That would depend on the parents.

But correct me if im wrong, perhaps certain States, such as California, force parents to give their children proper education? And New York State i would suspect have similar view. But the ´Bible Belt´ such as Texas is without a doubt Creationist material.

California is one of the more lax states. The New England area is general the more highly regulated area. Homeschool Laws.

I find it odd that a country have different laws depending on region, that would suggest its not ONE country.

Read about the formation of the government, then I think you'll understand. We are one nation with many states.

I know Texas wanted to be independent until.... Rather recently?

Texas was an independent country from 1836-1845. It joined the United States as the 28th state in 1845.