A Deluge of Evidence for the Flood?

LittlePig · Post by **LittlePig** » Thu May 21, 2009 11:28 am

otseng wrote:
goat wrote:
otseng wrote:
LittlePig wrote: And I can't think of any reason you would make the comment you made if you weren't suggesting that the find favored your view of a worldwide flood.
Umm, because simply it's a better explanation? And the fact that it's more consistent with the Flood Model doesn't hurt either.
Except, of course, it isn't consistent with a 'Flood Model', since it isn't mixed in with any animals that we know are modern.
Before the rabbits multiply beyond control, I'll just leave my proposal as a rapid burial. Nothing more than that. For this thread, it can just be a giant mud slide.

Since it's still spring time, let's let the rabbits multiply.

Questions for Debate:

1) Does a Global Flood Model provide the best explanation for our current fossil record, geologic formations, and biodiversity?

2) What real science is used in Global Flood Models?

3) What predictions does a Global Flood Model make?

4) Have Global Flood Models ever been subjected to a formal peer review process?

Grumpy · Post by **Grumpy** » Thu May 28, 2009 9:59 am

I'm sorry, but are the rational believers on this forum(such as Osteng) not going to reign in the...idiocy of this poster. He is painting a very unflattering picture of what being a believer is(IE basically brainless). It reminds me of the old saw, "It is impossible to make a caricature of a Fundamentalist/Creationist that SOMEBODY will not mistake for the real thing."

His posts are an insult to your intelligence as well as ours.

Grumpy

Cathar1950 · Post by **Cathar1950** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:04 am

Carico wrote:
I never said anything about a total freeze on the planet earth. I just defined what an ice age is. Oh the ice last receded from Europe around 14,000 years ago so no wonder we don't have any documentation of it - writing originated only on the order of 6,000 years ago.

Pro-tip: We're still in an ice-age, sonny Smile

Sorry, but this poster said we're still living in an Ice age. And he added that means there are plenty of witnesses. So you guys can't seem to get your stories straight because your contradictions aren't even disguised! But that's no surprise since they're conjured up in the imaginations of men.

So since you can't even define an ice age or the common ancestor, then your stories don't even make a good fiction novel. Your contradictions (lies) are blatant. Satan's lies are easy to expose. But since the secular world follows Satan who's the father of lies, then they're the last people to be able to see them. That's because one of Satan's lies is that his lies won't be noticed.

You are not paying attention. Not only do you seem to lack reading comprehension but you also lack imagination which is probably why you take your selective reading of your Bible literally.
There have been a number of ice ages and a number of times the ice has retreated. I suspect you are either ignorant or you are trolling.

Carico · Post by **Carico** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:04 am

One of the things that drives the ice retreating or advancing is the orbit of the earth around the sun. It is not 100% stable and 'wobbles' a bit. If it wasn't for the green house gases, we actually would be in the start of a cooling period.

How can you say that when weathermen can't even predict the weather accurately from one day to the next?!

Why is that, do you think?

Grumpy · Post by **Grumpy** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:25 am

How can you say that when weathermen can't even predict the weather accurately from one day to the next?! Why is that, do you think?

Day to day weather is extremely variable, long term trends are not.

Grumpy

Carico · Post by **Carico** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:49 am

Day to day weather is extremely variable, long term trends are not.

I see that lies comes easily to those who are being deceived by Satan. So...what is the weather forecast for Minneapolis a year or 10 years from now?

Cathar1950 · Post by **Cathar1950** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:51 am

Grumpy wrote:I'm sorry, but are the rational believers on this forum(such as Osteng) not going to reign in the...idiocy of this poster. He is painting a very unflattering picture of what being a believer is(IE basically brainless). It reminds me of the old saw, "It is impossible to make a caricature of a Fundamentalist/Creationist that SOMEBODY will not mistake for the real thing."

His posts are an insult to your intelligence as well as ours.

Grumpy

I don't know how I could argee with you more.
I keep wondering if he is a troll trying to make Christianity look bad and Christians look dense.
Here is an example.

Carico wrote:
One of the things that drives the ice retreating or advancing is the orbit of the earth around the sun. It is not 100% stable and 'wobbles' a bit. If it wasn't for the green house gases, we actually would be in the start of a cooling period.
How can you say that when weathermen can't even predict the weather accurately from one day to the next?! Why is that, do you think?

Given the millions of years of change ans stability it is like watching the weather forecast that says possible rain and looking outside at the rain and wondering why the weatherman was wrong.
He keeps making one unsupported claim after another while complaining about everyone that doesn't see it as he does as if he were home schooled by illiterates.

Carico · Post by **Carico** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:53 am

But considering that scientists claim that we were headed into "another" ice age in the 1970's and took that back 5 years later, then they prove that they can't predict the future and thus look foolish when they try. Nevertheless, people put blind faith in anything they say and believe it as fact. That's why Obama has set aside billions of dollars to offset global warming when scientists have shown that they aren't even as reliable as psychics.

Cathar1950 · Post by **Cathar1950** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:54 am

Carico wrote:
Day to day weather is extremely variable, long term trends are not.
I see that lies comes easily to those who are being deceived by Satan. So...what is the weather forecast for Minneapolis a year or 10 years from now?

It looks lies are natural when it comes to the believer and misunderstanding their morality.
We see the results of trends and past ice ages.

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Thu May 28, 2009 11:20 am

Carico wrote:How can you say that when weathermen can't even predict the weather accurately from one day to the next?! Why is that, do you think?

Are you just trying to score points or do you really want to know?

Chaos and weather prediction R Buizza - ECMWF, Meteorological Trainng Course Lecture Series, 2002

Chaos and Weather Forecasting Argonne National Laboratory, Division of Educational Programs, Harold Myron, Ph.D., Division Director.

Chaos, Strange Attractors, and Weather A.A. Tsonis and J.B. Elsner
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, Department of Geosciences, Milwaukee, WI 53201

Carico · Post by **Carico** » Thu May 28, 2009 12:19 pm

Oh I know that scientists think they are omniscient gods who can predict the future, but the weather in 10 years or a year from now will show whether or not they are correct. It's not hard to predict the future; even a child can do it. What's hard is making sure that your predictions come true. But the prophecies in the bible that were prophesied up to this time, have come true...hundreds of them.

That just proves that the secular world is duped into believing people who change their minds rather than people who have the word of God which has always come true.