What is peer review?

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What is peer review?

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Often when debating atheism or questioning the evolution doctrine, the supporters of evolution will reject arguments against it made by scientists because they insist that only "peer reviewed" publications are to be trusted (else it must be pseudo science).

So I want to ask how does one decide whether a journal is or is not peer reviewed? what definition do people use to help them make this decision?

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Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:00 pm
Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:56 pm
Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:51 pm Of course, you refuse to answer my questions.
Because squares on a cube are irrelevant to genetics. Duh.
So, are you claiming that long term genome changes cannot be modelled by group theory?
Please....for your own sake, take the time to learn a subject before trying to argue about it.
Who's arguing? I'm just asking pretty clear questions, expecting honest answers.

Strange how a self described scientist clams up when attempting to discuss science mathematically, most odd.
I'm going to demonstrate the proper way to respond in situations like this.

I have no experience in group theory. I've not worked with or in group theory, ever. So I am not at all qualified to say much of anything about it, let alone comment on its applications in genetics.

What I just showed you is called humility and self-awareness. You would do well to learn from this.
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Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:07 pm
Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:00 pm
Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:56 pm
Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:51 pm Of course, you refuse to answer my questions.
Because squares on a cube are irrelevant to genetics. Duh.
So, are you claiming that long term genome changes cannot be modelled by group theory?
Please....for your own sake, take the time to learn a subject before trying to argue about it.
Who's arguing? I'm just asking pretty clear questions, expecting honest answers.

Strange how a self described scientist clams up when attempting to discuss science mathematically, most odd.
I'm going to demonstrate the proper way to respond in situations like this.

I have no experience in group theory. I've not worked with or in group theory, ever. So I am not at all qualified to say much of anything about it, let alone comment on its applications in genetics.

What I just showed you is called humility and self-awareness. You would do well to learn from this.
Right, so what took you so long? you could have said this five posts ago!

Group theory does have applications in genetics, it is applicable. So my framing question from a group theoretic perspective is entirely reasonable, and a visual analogy like a Rubik's cube is entirely reasonable too since the set of states and the operations permitted on a cube form a mathematical group.

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Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:12 pm Right, so what took you so long? you could have said this five posts ago!
And you could done the same with paleontology, biology, evolutionary biology, genetics.....yet you continue to strut around making grand proclamations about those subjects even though you know little to nothing about them.
Group theory does have applications in genetics, it is applicable. So my framing question from a group theoretic perspective is entirely reasonable, and a visual analogy like a Rubik's cube is entirely reasonable too since the set of states and the operations permitted on a cube form a mathematical group.
Great. If you ever want to talk actual genetics on its own merits, again I strongly suggest that you first take the time to study the subject.
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Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:25 pm You may as well be asking if my genome could have come from my cousin's.
Or just ask if you're from Alabama :tongue:
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:23 pm
Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:25 pm You may as well be asking if my genome could have come from my cousin's.
Or just ask if you're from Alabama :tongue:
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Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:19 pm
Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:12 pm Right, so what took you so long? you could have said this five posts ago!
And you could done the same with paleontology, biology, evolutionary biology, genetics.....yet you continue to strut around making grand proclamations about those subjects even though you know little to nothing about them.
Group theory does have applications in genetics, it is applicable. So my framing question from a group theoretic perspective is entirely reasonable, and a visual analogy like a Rubik's cube is entirely reasonable too since the set of states and the operations permitted on a cube form a mathematical group.
Great. If you ever want to talk actual genetics on its own merits, again I strongly suggest that you first take the time to study the subject.
I too strongly suggest too that if you want to talk about genetics from the standpoint of group theory, combinatoric and so on that you first take the time to study the subject.

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Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:31 pm
Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:19 pm
Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:12 pm Right, so what took you so long? you could have said this five posts ago!
And you could done the same with paleontology, biology, evolutionary biology, genetics.....yet you continue to strut around making grand proclamations about those subjects even though you know little to nothing about them.
Group theory does have applications in genetics, it is applicable. So my framing question from a group theoretic perspective is entirely reasonable, and a visual analogy like a Rubik's cube is entirely reasonable too since the set of states and the operations permitted on a cube form a mathematical group.
Great. If you ever want to talk actual genetics on its own merits, again I strongly suggest that you first take the time to study the subject.
I too strongly suggest too that if you want to talk about genetics from the standpoint of group theory, combinatoric and so on that you first take the time to study the subject.
I agree. One should always take the time to study a subject before attempting to debate it. Do you agree with that?
Being apathetic is great....or not. I don't really care.

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Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:34 pm
Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:31 pm
Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:19 pm
Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:12 pm Right, so what took you so long? you could have said this five posts ago!
And you could done the same with paleontology, biology, evolutionary biology, genetics.....yet you continue to strut around making grand proclamations about those subjects even though you know little to nothing about them.
Group theory does have applications in genetics, it is applicable. So my framing question from a group theoretic perspective is entirely reasonable, and a visual analogy like a Rubik's cube is entirely reasonable too since the set of states and the operations permitted on a cube form a mathematical group.
Great. If you ever want to talk actual genetics on its own merits, again I strongly suggest that you first take the time to study the subject.
I too strongly suggest too that if you want to talk about genetics from the standpoint of group theory, combinatoric and so on that you first take the time to study the subject.
I agree. One should always take the time to study a subject before attempting to debate it. Do you agree with that?
Yes.

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Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:38 pm
Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:34 pm I agree. One should always take the time to study a subject before attempting to debate it. Do you agree with that?
Yes.
Good. So tell me....how much time have you devoted to studying genetics (molecular and/or population)?
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Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:40 pm
Sherlock Holmes wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:38 pm
Jose Fly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:34 pm I agree. One should always take the time to study a subject before attempting to debate it. Do you agree with that?
Yes.
Good. So tell me....how much time have you devoted to studying genetics (molecular and/or population)?
I never kept track, why do you ask? are you seeking to challenge me on some point? that's fine but perhaps a dedicated thread is best?

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