There are currently five categories which the U.S. legally recognizes in which persons may voluntarily identify and classify themselves as, according to their self-evident, self-recognized and self-identified common ancestral racial traits of national and geographic origins. None of these categories are Homo sapiens.
http://atlas.usafa.af.mil/meo/Discri~1.htm
http://www.withylaw.com/distopic.htm
http://www.wvf.state.wv.us/eeo/NO.htm
http://mountain-prairie.fws.gov/dcr/Basis.htm
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/oeeo/national.htm
As far as the U.S. legal system is concerned, there does not seem to be any legally protected class of persons called Homo sapiens or any ancestral category of persons named Homo erectus from whom Homo sapiens are believed by neo-Darwinists to have descended.
Since it may reasonably be considered to be a violation of their civil rights to have their human ancestors related to, or called, anything other than what the U.S. Government recognizes as legally protected classes of persons, I respectfully submit that teachers and students in U.S. public school systems who publically volunteer to self-identify and self-classify themselves as members of any of the legally recognized and protected classes of persons established by law, may not be involuntarily labeled and classified as Homo sapiens in public schools without their written consent or the written consent of their parents or legal guardians.
Otherwise, if state governments continue to mandate and impose evolutionary neo-Darwinist beliefs and teachings about the human ancestry of the five legitimate racial catagories in which students and teachers have voluntarily chosen to identify and classify themselves as, then public school students and teachers have every right to sue the state for civil rights violations and a redress of racial and ancestral grievances.
Evolutionist Discrimination in Public Education.
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Post #51
John
Grumpy 8)
There is no evidence of further evolutionary pressure on the single species of Homo Sapiens alive today. Since selection requires better reproductive success in competition within the species, and given the fact that all individuals can reproduce without restriction in the present conditions, there is currently no noticable evolutionary changes occuring in man. If civilization were to fail and large portions of the population were eliminated and small populations become isolated then rapid evolutionary changes could be expected.Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject:
Grumpy
I fail to see the humor or offense in my statement. Your argument for human evolution has become strangely ad hominem and unscientific when you utterly fail to see, recognize or theorize the absolute necessity of racial evolution within a human species in order for any small isolated population within it to further evolve and become physically diversified enough from the rest of the 'species' to eventually emerge and become a qualified candidate for neo-Darwinist consideration as another human species. In neo-Darwinist theory, the whole population of a species doesn't evolve into a new species. Only the few humans which successfully mate and mutate genetically and by 'natural and sexual selection' adapt to their new isolated niche in an environment may be scientifically classified as a sub-set of their species, a subspecies within the species or racial group within the species, until whatever time it, they or their racial descendents further evolve into an entirely new neo-Darwinist species of human beings.
The evolution of man in Africa for the last 7.5 million years is very well documented with dozens of fossils having been found in the last decade. Dna studies in the last decade have further clarified that history. The possible genetic contributionof Neaderthal has been eliminated leaving a single source for Homo Sapiens leaving Africa some 75,000 years ago. All humans descend from that source. Other than superfiscial skin coloration and ethnic differences all men are descended from a single line and are the same species. As Joe Friday used to say"Just the facts, Mame".Remember, without a good theory of human evolution to explain all human evolution out of Africa, no human evolution may have occurred at all in Africa.
Grumpy 8)
Post #52
There is some obvious evidence of creationist and Neanderthal pressure on neo-Darwinist Homo sapiens in public education though.Grumpy wrote:There is no evidence of further evolutionary pressure on the single species of Homo Sapiens alive today.
It's nice to know that human evolution in America has suddenly come to a halt, Grumpy.Since selection requires better reproductive success in competition within the species, and given the fact that all individuals can reproduce without restriction in the present conditions, there is currently no noticable evolutionary changes occuring in man.
According to evolutionist theory, small isolated populations of human beings may become racially diverse if left to breed by themselves over long periods of time. As further genetic mutations occur within these racial groups some are sexually selected by natural selection to outbreed and out-populate other groups within the species and to eventually establish racial and territorial supremacy over other competing populations which eventually become racially extinct after the superior race within the species further evolves into a new neo-Darwinist 'species' of humanity.If civilization were to fail and large portions of the population were eliminated and small populations become isolated then rapid evolutionary changes could be expected.
With such an abundance of documented evidence supporting all paleoanthropological and genetic evolutionist facts, what need is there for a neo-Darwinist racial theory of human evolution anymore? Just teach the facts, Grumpy, and leave the theorizing about our human ancestry to more creative and creationist Neanderthals like me.The evolution of man in Africa for the last 7.5 million years is very well documented with dozens of fossils having been found in the last decade. Dna studies in the last decade have further clarified that history. The possible genetic contributionof Neaderthal has been eliminated leaving a single source for Homo Sapiens leaving Africa some 75,000 years ago. All humans descend from that source. Other than superfiscial skin coloration and ethnic differences all men are descended from a single line and are the same species. As Joe Friday used to say"Just the facts, Mame".
Grumpy 8)
Post #53
Icelanders apparently have a very unique genetic structure compared to other sapiens around the world (humans), which has given them certain immunity.According to evolutionist theory, small isolated populations of human beings may become racially diverse if left to breed by themselves over long periods of time. As further genetic mutations occur within these racial groups some are sexually selected by natural selection to outbreed and out-populate other groups within the species and to eventually establish racial and territorial supremacy over other competing populations which eventually become racially extinct after the superior race within the species further evolves into a new neo-Darwinist 'species' of humanity.
But i guess this does not give me a extra star in the corner by the Creationists and Christians on this board?
Post #54
John
We are already teaching the facts, thats why creationism has been excluded.
Grumpy 8)
What you call creative and creationist we call delusional and ignorant, John.ust teach the facts, Grumpy, and leave the theorizing about our human ancestry to more creative and creationist Neanderthals like me.
We are already teaching the facts, thats why creationism has been excluded.
There is no need at all, that's why we don't have any racist theories in evolutionary science and never have.With such an abundance of documented evidence supporting all paleoanthropological and genetic evolutionist facts, what need is there for a neo-Darwinist racial theory of human evolution anymore
Actually, it came to a halt when civilization became advanced enough that we were no longer in competition for adequite food and everyone could live long enough to reproduce sometime around 4 or 5 thousand years ago.It's nice to know that human evolution in America has suddenly come to a halt, Grumpy.
You should probably leave the explanations of evolutionary theories to someone who actually knows what he's talking about. Your racism causes you to misunderstand everything and it really shows in your total ignorance of evolutionary theories. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.According to evolutionist theory, small isolated populations of human beings may become racially diverse if left to breed by themselves over long periods of time. As further genetic mutations occur within these racial groups some are sexually selected by natural selection to outbreed and out-populate other groups within the species and to eventually establish racial and territorial supremacy over other competing populations which eventually become racially extinct after the superior race within the species further evolves into a new neo-Darwinist 'species' of humanity.
Grumpy 8)
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Post #56
Well, thats not completely true. evolutionary science per say has not been racist, but the teaching of it has, especially around the 30´s and 40´s. Where both in Europe and United States (As you well know, United States looked up to Germany, and chancellor Hitler, and also implented quite a deal of its racial science in US schools), racial reaching, especially the "superior to blacks" theme. But as said, this was not Science, rather the Teaching of it.There is no need at all, that's why we don't have any racist theories in evolutionary science and never have.
Post #57
If not, Neanderthal Americans will award you two extra stars for posting such relevent data about Neanderthal Icelander's "very unique genetic structure" and immunity.Scrotum wrote:Icelanders apparently have a very unique genetic structure compared to other sapiens around the world (humans), which has given them certain immunity.
But i guess this does not give me a extra star in the corner by the Creationists and Christians on this board?
Post #58
Yes, neo-Darwinists do seem to have their own unique systems of classification and name-calling.Grumpy wrote:What you call creative and creationist we call delusional and ignorant, John.
Individual facts are funny things things, Grumpy. They don't even exist unless some majority decides to create and believe in them for themselves.We are already teaching the facts, thats why creationism has been excluded.
Trouble is, Grumpy, no neo-Darwinist actually seems to know what they are talking about when they start talking about human beings like modern Neanderthal Americans.You should probably leave the explanations of evolutionary theories to someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
What racism, Grumpy? You don't call fighting for the civil rights of all Americans racist, do you? How strange.Your racism causes you to misunderstand everything and it really shows in your total ignorance of evolutionary theories.
Good advice, Grumpy. Take it yourself before giving it to others.It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
Grumpy 8)
Post #59
Thank you, USIncognito. You must mean Neandertroll, though. Otherwise, I couldn't possibly accept your kind Homo sapiens monthly award.USIncognito wrote:John Crawford gets my troll of the month award for this thread.
Bravo John.
Post #60
Well written, and insightful, Scrotum. Neo-Darwinists have been given black eyes on more than one occasion for teaching race theories instead of science. Grumpy should know his neo-Darwinist history better as well as the pure neo-Darwinist theory he is so readily willing to abandon for the "facts" and "evidence," which support it.Scrotum wrote:Well, thats not completely true. evolutionary science per say has not been racist, but the teaching of it has, especially around the 30´s and 40´s. Where both in Europe and United States (As you well know, United States looked up to Germany, and chancellor Hitler, and also implented quite a deal of its racial science in US schools), racial reaching, especially the "superior to blacks" theme. But as said, this was not Science, rather the Teaching of it.There is no need at all, that's why we don't have any racist theories in evolutionary science and never have.
