Dinosaur tracks in the Paluxy riverbed.

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Dinosaur tracks in the Paluxy riverbed.

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The Paluxy River in Glen Rose, Texas has dried to the point of revealing dinosaur tracks, again. This time apparently to the point that previously undiscovered tracks have been found. This caught my attention because in the 1930s, some creationists claimed that human tracks were found there in the same rock level as dinosaur tracks. It was later determined that they weren't human tracks and there was some evidence that the tracks may have been modified to more closely resemble human tracks.

This article provides some of the issues:
Paluxy Man -- The Creationist Piltdown

Creationists, by citing examples of fossils that are supposed to be in the wrong order for evolution, often try to prove that the geological time scale is in error. In particular, they claim that human footprints have been found in rocks containing traces of dinosaurs and other animals that died out millions of years before humans actually appeared on the earth. As we shall see, however, these alleged footprints are either natural objects that have nothing to do with humans or are deliberate frauds. On the whole, the leading creationist authors are intelligent and sincere, but it seems that they have a very strong will to believe when it comes to defending their model.

https://ncse.ngo/paluxy-man-creationist-piltdown
The Piltdown Man is often presented as a reason to mistrust science, but are there any scientists today who don't accept that it was a fraud?

Are there any creationists today who still accept the human footprint claim and if so, what does that say about science's ability to correct and reject false claims compared to the creationist approach?


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Tcg wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:07 pm
Inquirer wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:19 pm

Tcg spoke of "interpretations that match reality" which I regard as a specious position, it should be written "interpretations that match one's interpretation of reality"...
Yeah, ain't word games fun.

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Jose Fly wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:41 pm
Diagoras wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:19 pm Here's where this thread was derailed. We could continue a sensible debate on the relative merits of scientific or creationist approaches to examining hoaxes, or we could suddenly switch to defining reality and asking about space-time.
Well yeah, that was the point....divert the thread.
As is your post, nothing to do with any aspect of the OP, just another complaint about others.

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Inquirer wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:39 pm
Jose Fly wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:41 pm
Diagoras wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:19 pm Here's where this thread was derailed. We could continue a sensible debate on the relative merits of scientific or creationist approaches to examining hoaxes, or we could suddenly switch to defining reality and asking about space-time.
Well yeah, that was the point....divert the thread.
As is your post, nothing to do with any aspect of the OP, just another complaint about others.
Except for the second half, which you deliberately ignored.

Creationists....:roll:
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Jose Fly wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:55 pm
Inquirer wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:39 pm
Jose Fly wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:41 pm
Diagoras wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:19 pm Here's where this thread was derailed. We could continue a sensible debate on the relative merits of scientific or creationist approaches to examining hoaxes, or we could suddenly switch to defining reality and asking about space-time.
Well yeah, that was the point....divert the thread.
As is your post, nothing to do with any aspect of the OP, just another complaint about others.
Except for the second half, which you deliberately ignored.

Creationists....:roll:
What is a creationist?

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Inquirer wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:23 pm What is a creationist?
Folks who make up fancy tales of gods and demons and rib wimmins and talking snakes and water walking warlocks, and all such as that.
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Inquirer wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:35 pm
Tcg wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:07 pm
Inquirer wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:19 pm

Tcg spoke of "interpretations that match reality" which I regard as a specious position, it should be written "interpretations that match one's interpretation of reality"...
Yeah, ain't word games fun.

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How about that. As far as I can tell, you ain't no atheist. And yet here you are... playing games... with words.


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Tcg wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:44 pm
Inquirer wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:35 pm
Tcg wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:07 pm
Inquirer wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:19 pm

Tcg spoke of "interpretations that match reality" which I regard as a specious position, it should be written "interpretations that match one's interpretation of reality"...
Yeah, ain't word games fun.

Tcg
That depends, I know that many atheists love them.
How about that. As far as I can tell, you ain't no atheist. And yet here you are... playing games... with words.


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I'd argue that claiming a knowledge of "reality" is where the real game paying begins!

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Inquirer wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:24 pm I'd argue that claiming a knowledge of "reality" is where the real game playing begins!
Says the theist.
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