There are currently five categories which the U.S. legally recognizes in which persons may voluntarily identify and classify themselves as, according to their self-evident, self-recognized and self-identified common ancestral racial traits of national and geographic origins. None of these categories are Homo sapiens.
http://atlas.usafa.af.mil/meo/Discri~1.htm
http://www.withylaw.com/distopic.htm
http://www.wvf.state.wv.us/eeo/NO.htm
http://mountain-prairie.fws.gov/dcr/Basis.htm
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/oeeo/national.htm
As far as the U.S. legal system is concerned, there does not seem to be any legally protected class of persons called Homo sapiens or any ancestral category of persons named Homo erectus from whom Homo sapiens are believed by neo-Darwinists to have descended.
Since it may reasonably be considered to be a violation of their civil rights to have their human ancestors related to, or called, anything other than what the U.S. Government recognizes as legally protected classes of persons, I respectfully submit that teachers and students in U.S. public school systems who publically volunteer to self-identify and self-classify themselves as members of any of the legally recognized and protected classes of persons established by law, may not be involuntarily labeled and classified as Homo sapiens in public schools without their written consent or the written consent of their parents or legal guardians.
Otherwise, if state governments continue to mandate and impose evolutionary neo-Darwinist beliefs and teachings about the human ancestry of the five legitimate racial catagories in which students and teachers have voluntarily chosen to identify and classify themselves as, then public school students and teachers have every right to sue the state for civil rights violations and a redress of racial and ancestral grievances.
Evolutionist Discrimination in Public Education.
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Post #61
John
To which Scrotum replied, in part
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech on 12 April 1922
But he had good reason to think that Protestants supported his views. Let's examine the views of Martin Luther, the founder of every non Catholic Christian sect:
Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death. My advice, as I said earlier, is:
First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire...
Second, that all their books-- their prayer books, their Talmudic writings, also the entire Bible-- be taken from them, not leaving them one leaf, and that these be preserved for those who may be converted...
Third, that they be forbidden on pain of death to praise God, to give thanks, to pray, and to teach publicly among us and in our country...
Fourth, that they be forbidden to utter the name of God within our hearing. For we cannot with a good conscience listen to this or tolerate it...
-Martin Luther (On the Jews and Their Lies)
So John Crawford, when you seek to praise the misuse of evolutionary theories to promote racist agendas remember that people in glass houses should refrain from throwing stones.
Grumpy
What an ignorant thing to believe!!! Facts stand on their own even if the majority DOES NOT believe them, otherwise you would be arguing that the world is flat. It's your view of the facts which is funny, but not unexpected.Individual facts are funny things things, Grumpy. They don't even exist unless some majority decides to create and believe in them for themselves.
Do you not even know the difference between a noun(name) and a pronoun(word describing that noun)??? It's your IDEAS(noun) which are ignorant(pronoun) and delusional(pronoun). If I had called you an Idiot or a Buffoon or a Ludite THEN you could say I was name-calling,but since I did not you are in error once again(A condition you should be used to by now).Grumpy wrote:
What you call creative and creationist we call delusional and ignorant, John.
Yes, neo-Darwinists do seem to have their own unique systems of classification and name-calling.
That's true, no one knows anything about modern Neaderthals because there is no such animal(still waiting on that Mitchodrial DNA evidence proving your racist theories)as scientific evidence has shown. You would know that if you knew what you were talking about.Trouble is, Grumpy, no neo-Darwinist actually seems to know what they are talking about when they start talking about human beings like modern Neanderthal Americans.
Seems to me you're only worried about your White buddies and their supposed superior geneology seperate from the African origin of our ape ancestors, as every one of the humans now on Earth shares. Your pseudo-Darwinist claims of Neaderthal descent are just a cover to allow you and your White buddies to deny your African ape forebearers, who you consider to be inferior and beneath you own false ideas of a seperate heritage. Your disdain for our common heritage and claims of supposed superior seperate heritage is the definition of racism. The only civil rights you worry about are yours and your White buddy's.What racism, Grumpy? You don't call fighting for the civil rights of all Americans racist, do you? How strange.
That's what I said, that's what I meant.There is no need at all, that's why we don't have any racist theories in evolutionary science and never have.
To which Scrotum replied, in part
Yes it is true that racists have misused evolutionary science before but I would just point out that Hitler used more than evolution for his rationalizations. Such as:As you well know, United States looked up to Germany, and chancellor Hitler, and also implented quite a deal of its racial science in US schools
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech on 12 April 1922
But he had good reason to think that Protestants supported his views. Let's examine the views of Martin Luther, the founder of every non Catholic Christian sect:
Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death. My advice, as I said earlier, is:
First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire...
Second, that all their books-- their prayer books, their Talmudic writings, also the entire Bible-- be taken from them, not leaving them one leaf, and that these be preserved for those who may be converted...
Third, that they be forbidden on pain of death to praise God, to give thanks, to pray, and to teach publicly among us and in our country...
Fourth, that they be forbidden to utter the name of God within our hearing. For we cannot with a good conscience listen to this or tolerate it...
-Martin Luther (On the Jews and Their Lies)
So John Crawford, when you seek to praise the misuse of evolutionary theories to promote racist agendas remember that people in glass houses should refrain from throwing stones.
Grumpy
Post #62
Facts can't stand on their own, Grumpy. They don't have any legs, and you know that the world is only round nowadays because everyone believes it is. If everyone thought it was flat, you would be laughed off the face of the planet if you said it was round. You do remember your medieval history, don't you?Grumpy wrote:Facts stand on their own even if the majority DOES NOT believe them, otherwise you would be arguing that the world is flat.
You do have a sense of humor after all, Grumpy.It's your view of the facts which is funny, but not unexpected.
My only concern for my white buddies is that they don't get sucked into neo-Darwinist race theories about African people evolving from monkey and ape ancestors. My Neanderthal American Christian brethren are only to happy to share our country with our African brothers in Christ who don't deny us our own special and unique human ancestry from Ice Age Neanderthals who survived Noah's Flood and eventually migrated to America as Irishmen, Vikings and other Norsemen and women.Seems to me you're only worried about your White buddies and their supposed superior geneology seperate from the African origin of our ape ancestors, as every one of the humans now on Earth shares. Your pseudo-Darwinist claims of Neaderthal descent are just a cover to allow you and your White buddies to deny your African ape forebearers, who you consider to be inferior and beneath you own false ideas of a seperate heritage. Your disdain for our common heritage and claims of supposed superior seperate heritage is the definition of racism. The only civil rights you worry about are yours and your White buddy's.
By your own logic then, you must assume and infer that Southern Baptists like Martin Luther King were as racist as aforementioned German Christians. Interesting perspective. I wonder if other Protestants like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson also consider themselves to be racists. What is your religious identity, btw?Yes it is true that racists have misused evolutionary science before but I would just point out that Hitler used more than evolution for his rationalizations.
But he had good reason to think that Protestants supported his views. Let's examine the views of Martin Luther, the founder of every non Catholic Christian sect:
Yes, of course. I don't live in a glass house here on Central Park West in Manhattan, though, even though my Neanderthal ancestors threw plenty of stone axes at wooly rhinos and mammoths during the Ice Age.So John Crawford, when you seek to praise the misuse of evolutionary theories to promote racist agendas remember that people in glass houses should refrain from throwing stones.
Grumpy
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Post #63
jcrawford wrote:
It is really nice that you and your neanderthal buddies will share this nation with the "Christian" black folk. I am sure they would not mind calling you a bunch of neanderthals in a colloquial fun making way. But your still not Neandethals what ever you say, except in a slang manner.My only concern for my white buddies is that they don't get sucked into neo-Darwinist race theories about African people evolving from monkey and ape ancestors. My Neanderthal American Christian brethren are only to happy to share our country with our African brothers in Christ who don't deny us our own special and unique human ancestry from Ice Age Neanderthals who survived Noah's Flood and eventually migrated to America as Irishmen, Vikings and other Norsemen and women.
I doubt that they would say they are racist. But I bet they would say you are. Instead of KKK you could be the NNA Neanderthals of North America.By your own logic then, you must assume and infer that Southern Baptists like Martin Luther King were as racist as aforementioned German Christians. Interesting perspective. I wonder if other Protestants like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson also consider themselves to be racists. What is your religious identity, btw?
You ancestors may have used axes and stones, something I am starting to doubt, But they still were not Neanderthals. What happened to good old fashion Arian racism? Do your friends know you call them neanderthals?Yes, of course. I don't live in a glass house here on Central Park West in Manhattan, though, even though my Neanderthal ancestors threw plenty of stone axes at wooly rhinos and mammoths during the Ice Age.
Post #64
I and my black Christian friends would never call you an ape, even in a neo-Darwinist way, except, of course, in a colloquial fun-loving way, once you promised to stop associating and labeling our Neanderthal and African ancestors with common descendents of African monkey and ape ancestors.Cathar1950 wrote:It is really nice that you and your neanderthal buddies will share this nation with the "Christian" black folk. I am sure they would not mind calling you a bunch of neanderthals in a colloquial fun making way. But your still not Neandethals what ever you say, except in a slang manner.
Hmmm, lets' see. I wonder if the domain name NNA.com is available. Nice acronym, although I like Association of American Neanderthals better. Sounds more dignified. How about NAANP? Bet'cha don't know what that stands for?Instead of KKK you could be the NNA Neanderthals of North America.
What was "good" about old fashioned Arian racism?What happened to good old fashion Arian racism?
Only my off-white friends, since none of them are pure white or ivory. I refer to my black friends as black since they don't usually insist on being called people of color or African Americans. My daughters are tall so I even call them Neanderthals sometimes although their mother is of mixed West Indian, African and Neanderthal ancestry.Do your friends know you call them neanderthals?
You sure you don't have any friends who are of European or Middle Eastern descent, or mixed ancestry?
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I just really don't know what to say.
I am sure I do. My family would breed with anyone and I have the genes to prove it. Unlike your neanderthal genes.You sure you don't have any friends who are of European or Middle Eastern descent, or mixed ancestry?
Post #66
NorthNAANP
American
Association of
Nincom
Poops(and proud of it)
Neanderthal
Americans
Are
Not
Possible(and we know it)
Never
Agree to
Argue with
Nuthouse
Patients(it only encourages them)
Nutjobs
Are
Always
Nutjobs
Period(it's in their nature)
Not
All
American
Neanderthals are racially
Prejudiced(just the ones on this forum)
Grumpy
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Post #69
One can't blame one's ancestors for inbreeding especially when they were genetically isolated from their neighbors in cold climates and caves during long Neanderthal winters in the Ice Age. Now that we have entered the era of global warming and fervent heat, relations between Neanderthals and African people in America are warming up nicely. After all, we don't blame them either for not leaving their more equatorial climate and coming to visit more often before the Ice age was over.Cathar1950 wrote:I just really don't know what to say.I am sure I do. My family would breed with anyone and I have the genes to prove it. Unlike your neanderthal genes.You sure you don't have any friends who are of European or Middle Eastern descent, or mixed ancestry?
Post #70
Hey, you guys really are quite creative. You sure you're not creationists in modern neo-Darwinist clothing?Cathar1950 wrote:Neo
neanderthals
Know
Nothing
new
NNKNN
But spell it
NNNNN
Thanks for the many imaginative suggestions for a website domain name.
