Christians Favor Abortion

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Many Christians here and elsewhere claim to be very opposed to abortion. BUT when confronted with an unwanted pregnancy Christian women (including Evangelicals) have the very abortion they claim to oppose – a half a million times per year.

A 1994/95 survey (2,3) of nearly 10,000 abortion patients showed 18% of women having abortions are born-again or Evangelical Christians. Many of these women are likely anti-choice. The survey also showed that Catholic women have an abortion rate 29% higher than Protestant women. A Planned Parenthood handbook on abortion notes that nearly half of all abortions are for women who describe themselves as born-again Christian, Evangelical Christian, or Catholic.

http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html

The article has several ironic citations about "Pro-Life" women who have abortions including this one:

"I've had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, 'You're not going to tell them, are you!?' When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn't want this to interfere with it." (Physician, Texas)

Another article

A new study by The Center For Reason (www.CenterForReason.com) finds that Christians have just as many abortions as their non-Christian counterparts. The study concludes that in the year 2000, Christians were responsible for 570,000 abortions. Catholics were found to be the worst offenders, with abortion rates higher than the national average.
http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/articles/ ... rtion.html

Question for debate:

If Christian women have more than half a million abortions per year how can the Christian anti-abortion stance NOT be hypocritical?

[Raptor_Jesus]

Very good point
This is irrelevant,
but do you believe that modern media has more of an influence on sex and all that stuff?

Or does sex have an influence on media? Its probably both.
But what do you mean by "more of an influence", more then what?

I have read that porno or the sex industry has been a leader in new computer technology going to the common person.
The media is the message.

There has been pornography and sexual images as long as we have history but maybe not as long as we have had sex. Sometimes they were like politics and religion where there were no separate areas of social and cultural life.

I think media will keep up with our sex lives and who knows what benefits it brings.
I find it interesting how our sexual maps are formed early in our development along with our sense of self and both influence our later sexual development even at its roots.

What I meant by "more of an influence" was if it had more of an influence then it used to
Everyones seen those commercials, like BOD for instance, where theres a bunch of girls all over a guy. And music of course, whether you would want to think that. Just listen to some of Akon and its mostly about sex and drugs. [Im NOT trying to thrash Akon lol]
I think my generation, being the most technological in our adulthood, will probably still have porno just sitting on the internet. Want to know why its so easy for kids and teens to get into this stuff? Its FREE, easily accessible, and the only punishment is maybe getting a "talk", and a slap on the wrists.
Theres no punishment to this sort of stuff. And a parent cant blame an artist because the local radio station plays a song that endorces drugs, sex, and alchohol. They can only blame the media.

[Cathar1950]

Very good point
This is irrelevant,
but do you believe that modern media has more of an influence on sex and all that stuff?

Or does sex have an influence on media? Its probably both.
But what do you mean by "more of an influence", more then what?

I have read that porno or the sex industry has been a leader in new computer technology going to the common person.
The media is the message.

There has been pornography and sexual images as long as we have history but maybe not as long as we have had sex. Sometimes they were like politics and religion where there were no separate areas of social and cultural life.

I think media will keep up with our sex lives and who knows what benefits it brings.
I find it interesting how our sexual maps are formed early in our development along with our sense of self and both influence our later sexual development even at its roots.

What I meant by "more of an influence" was if it had more of an influence then it used to
Everyones seen those commercials, like BOD for instance, where theres a bunch of girls all over a guy. And music of course, whether you would want to think that. Just listen to some of Akon and its mostly about sex and drugs. [Im NOT trying to thrash Akon lol]
I think my generation, being the most technological in our adulthood, will probably still have porno just sitting on the internet. Want to know why its so easy for kids and teens to get into this stuff? Its FREE, easily accessible, and the only punishment is maybe getting a "talk", and a slap on the wrists.
Theres no punishment to this sort of stuff. And a parent cant blame an artist because the local radio station plays a song that endorces drugs, sex, and alchohol. They can only blame the media.

I think there might have been to much punishment in the past which is why we are so goofy when it comes to sex. So let's say the parents punish them then they associate the punishment with sex and the next thing you know they are hurting each other during sex where before they just sat and dreamed.
The ads are aiming at what interests us and having a bunch of girls all over you might seem nice just like 1000 wives and 72 virgins.

[Raptor_Jesus]

Very good point
This is irrelevant,
but do you believe that modern media has more of an influence on sex and all that stuff?

Or does sex have an influence on media? Its probably both.
But what do you mean by "more of an influence", more then what?

I have read that porno or the sex industry has been a leader in new computer technology going to the common person.
The media is the message.

There has been pornography and sexual images as long as we have history but maybe not as long as we have had sex. Sometimes they were like politics and religion where there were no separate areas of social and cultural life.

I think media will keep up with our sex lives and who knows what benefits it brings.
I find it interesting how our sexual maps are formed early in our development along with our sense of self and both influence our later sexual development even at its roots.

What I meant by "more of an influence" was if it had more of an influence then it used to
Everyones seen those commercials, like BOD for instance, where theres a bunch of girls all over a guy. And music of course, whether you would want to think that. Just listen to some of Akon and its mostly about sex and drugs. [Im NOT trying to thrash Akon lol]
I think my generation, being the most technological in our adulthood, will probably still have porno just sitting on the internet. Want to know why its so easy for kids and teens to get into this stuff? Its FREE, easily accessible, and the only punishment is maybe getting a "talk", and a slap on the wrists.
Theres no punishment to this sort of stuff. And a parent cant blame an artist because the local radio station plays a song that endorces drugs, sex, and alchohol. They can only blame the media.

I think there might have been to much punishment in the past which is why we are so goofy when it comes to sex. So let's say the parents punish them then they associate the punishment with sex and the next thing you know they are hurting each other during sex where before they just sat and dreamed.
The ads are aiming at what interests us and having a bunch of girls all over you might seem nice just like 1000 wives and 72 virgins.

The only punishment I could possibly think of was sodomy, which is completely fine in our society. Im not sure how they used to feel about sex before marriage. But I think they thought it as wrong because the fact that when a bride wears white, its supposed to represent how "pure" the bride is.
Correct me if I'm wrong

[perlucidus]

it is better for the spirit to not abort anything that is given
abortion is a sin
but one to be forgiven
let the aborters abort
dont fight what is not your battle
dont even say one word against them
love them
and one day they will love all that is given
as I love all that is given to me
peace