jesus in islam

CONVERTED TO ISLAM · Post by **CONVERTED TO ISLAM** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:20 am

The Islamic view of Jesus lies between two extremes. The Jews, who rejected Jesus as a prophet, called him an imposter, while the Christians, on the other hand, considered him to be the son of God and worship him as such. Islam considers Jesus to be one of the greatest and most forbearing of prophets, in addition to Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad, may God praise them. Jesus is also considered to be the Messiah as well. This is in conformity with the Islamic view of the Oneness of God, the Oneness of Divine guidance, and the complementary role of the subsequent mission of God’s messengers.

The message of God to humanity, which is to worship God and God alone and to live according to His instruction, was revealed to Adam (peace be upon him), who passed it on to his children. All the subsequent revelations to Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and, finally, Muhammad are in conformity with that message. Thus, Islam views any contradictions among revealed religions as man-made elements introduced into these religions. The position of Jesus in the three major creeds- Judaism, Christianity, and Islam- is not an exception.

Although the Quran does not present a detailed life-story of Jesus, it highlights the important aspects of his birth, his mission, his ascension to heaven. It also passes judgment on the Christian and Jewish beliefs concerning him. We will look at some of the truths which God revealed about Jesus in the Quran.

Born of a Virgin Mother
Like Christians, Muslims believe that Mary, Maria in Spanish, or Maryam as she is called in Arabic, was a chaste, virgin woman, who miraculously gave birth to Jesus. Jesus’ birth in itself was a miracle in that he had no father. God describes his birth in the Quran as follows:

“And mention in the Book (the Quran), Mary, when she withdrew in seclusion from her family to a place facing east. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her a spirit from Us, (the angel Gabriel), and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects. She said: ‘Verily, I seek refuge with the Most Gracious (God) from you, if you do fear God.’ (The angel) said: ‘I am only a messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son.’ She said: ‘How can I have a son, when no man hath touched me, nor am I unchaste?’ He said: ‘So (it will be), your Lord said That is easy for Me (God): And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (God), and it is a matter (already) decreed (by God).’” (Quran 19:16-21)

This fact, however, does not necessitate that Jesus is divine in essence or spirit, nor is he worthy of worship, for Adam’s existence was more miraculous than that of Jesus. If his miraculous birth were a proof that Jesus was God incarnate or His son, then Adam would have more right over this divinity than him. Rather, both are prophets who were inspired with revelation from God Almighty, and both were servants to Him living according to His commandments.

“Indeed, the likeness of Jesus with God is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said to him: ‘Be!’ and he was.’” (Quran 3:59)

Miracles
Muslims, like Christians believe that Jesus performed miracles. These miracles were performed by the will and permission of God, Who has power and control over all things.

“Then will God say: ‘O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favor to you and to your mother. Behold! I strengthened you with the Holy Spirit (the angel Gabriel) so that you did speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught you the Book and Wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel. And behold: you make out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and you breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by My leave, and you heal those born blind, and the lepers by My leave. And behold! You bring forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to you) when you did show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: ‘This is nothing but evident magic.’” (Quran 5:110)

God sent all prophets with miracles specific to the nation to whom they were sent to prove the veracity of their message. These miracles were not performed of their own accord; rather, they were only manifest in their hands by God's will. The miracles performed by Jesus were no different. The Jews were well advanced in the field of medicine, and the miracles which Jesus brought were of this nature, proving the truth of His message and in order to convince the Jews.

CONVERTED TO ISLAM · Post by **CONVERTED TO ISLAM** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:51 pm

McCulloch wrote:
muhammad rasullah wrote:Then How does evolution explain emotion if there is no soul?
What do you mean by soul?
Do you believe that only humans have emotions? Or do other animals have souls too?

animals have souls too
mohammed will tell you (allah willing)

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:27 pm

What do you mean by soul?

Fallibleone · Post by **Fallibleone** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:43 pm

CONVERTED TO ISLAM wrote:
I don't know. Why do you think it was a 'who'?

because it is written in quraan and other religions know that there must be a god
so how we came here !! there must be a god created us and create every thing

I already told you I don't know how we came here. Neither do you. We both know that we don't know, but one of us won't admit it. You claim superior knowledge of the unknown because of a book. It does not necessarily follow that 'there must be a god'.

My parents.

so who create your parents and and and and

Their parents, and their parents and and and....

who create the first human ?

I don't believe that anyone created the first human.

a)Please show evidence for the existence of a soul.

b)Supposing that souls exist, I don't know. What makes you think that anyone will take it?

the one who can create you able to take you

This is an opinion. What makes you think that anyone will take your soul?

so why we die ??

Because the components of our bodies have a finite lifespan.

how die !!!

We can die in many ways. We can have a fatal accident. We can die of failing organs. Wear and tear brought about by old age. Murder. Suicide. The list goes on.

there must be a soul

Why?

and if you do not believe in souls you have to believe that you will die and the one who makes you die can get you back

I don't have to believe anything simply because someone tells me I must.

allah can do any thing

Opinion.

I don't know.

you have to look for the answer because you are not really animal you have mind to think

a)Why do you think I am not looking for answers?
b)I am an animal. You are an animal. We are all animals.
c)Disagreement with your argument does not signify that I don't use my mind.

allah created us to test us

Opinion.

,, you can read quraan every thing is written there before 1400 years

I own a copy. There are certainly things written in it.

No one can answer your questions with anything other than opinion, yourself included. You might notice that I have said 'I don't know' a lot. That's the honest response to make.

it is not opinion

It is opinion. Simply refusing to accept that does not make it fact.

.. allah said that in quraan and mohammed (peace be upon him said that too )

It should be no surprise to you by now that neither Allah nor Mohammed signify much in my worldview. Therefore their influence on my thinking is pretty limited and stating what they supposedly said does not make the greates of impacts.

and you really do not know so many things ,, you live with no aim
just eating and sleeping !!!!

Oh dear...is this the old 'atheists have nothing to live for' argument again? Have we met? Of course not. All you know if me is what I have chosen to divulge. You are woefully ill-equipped to be able to offer an assessment of my aims or lack thereof. I have no interest in going over old ground with you here. If you look around the site, you will see many examples of things that atheists aim for.

On the subject of what happens when we die, I know exactly the same amount as you do. Not an awful lot.

Fallibleone · Post by **Fallibleone** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:45 pm

muhammad rasullah wrote:
CONVERTED TO ISLAM wrote:
Then How does evolution explain emotion if there is no soul?

hi mohammed rasul allah , i told them every thing in quraan and sunnah but they would not believe that
then i gave them some pictures but they said ( that is funny )

i think there is no benefits of talking with them
I have found that by providing proofs of everything is not enought because they will simply disagree. So we have to reason with them limit your proofs in the beginning and discuss the claims and reason with them and provide your proofs as you go along. When you reason it's very hard to deny truth because your own mind comes up with the answers for you not someone else!!

I'll look forward to seeing you reason.

muhammad rasullah · Post by **muhammad rasullah** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:42 pm

McCulloch wrote:What do you mean by soul?

why does everyone get confused when I talk about a soul as if it's something so abstract? How did we get emotions how does evolution explain this?

muhammad rasullah · Post by **muhammad rasullah** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:48 pm

Fallibleone wrote:I don't believe that anyone created the first human.

a)Please show evidence for the existence of a soul.

b)Supposing that souls exist, I don't know. What makes you think that anyone will take it?

very hard to debate with you about who created you or how you got here so well just start with origin of things. How did the first man get here if he wasn't created and please bring sound evidence?
Second if you believe in the evolutiion theory and since evrything evolves then how do you explain emotion? What I am saying is why don't plants and trees have emotions but people and animals do? can evolution explain this?

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:48 pm

muhammad rasullah wrote:
McCulloch wrote:What do you mean by soul?
why does everyone get confused when I talk about a soul as if it's something so abstract? How did we get emotions how does evolution explain this?

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b1 ... neke2.html

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:27 pm

McCulloch wrote:What do you mean by soul?

muhammad rasullah wrote:why does everyone get confused when I talk about a soul as if it's something so abstract? How did we get emotions how does evolution explain this?

Really, different people mean different things when using the word soul. I just need to be clear which meaning you are using. Are the ideas of soul and emotions connected in your worldview?

Emotions are a property of the brain. Neurological chemicals, natural and artificial can effect them. So can surgery and electrical probes. The whole study of the evolution of emotions is quite fascinating, but they clearly evolved to provide an advantage to entities to react to situations without needing to cognate too long.

How does this relate to whether or not Islam or any other religion is right? Is your inability to understand where emotions come from part of your rationale for an eternal soul?

muhammad rasullah · Post by **muhammad rasullah** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:33 pm

goat wrote:
muhammad rasullah wrote:
McCulloch wrote:What do you mean by soul?
why does everyone get confused when I talk about a soul as if it's something so abstract? How did we get emotions how does evolution explain this?

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b1 ... neke2.html

This article doesn't tell me anything about where emotions come from or how they evolve? The article only adresses the cause of emotions if you do this then they will feel like this. I know that already I don't need them to tell me. What I am looking for is the origin and why don't plants have emotions and humans do? Why do humans and animals display their emotions differently? It's hard to find an answer where it doesn't lie. The reason for these emotions that humans have and plants and other inanimate objects is because humans have a soul like animals and plants do not. Anything that happens to the human being with affect their soul which in turn affects their emotions. without a soul man would be as the plants and the trees he would be motionless and uncapable of anything.

muhammad rasullah · Post by **muhammad rasullah** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:44 pm

McCulloch wrote:
McCulloch wrote:What do you mean by soul?

muhammad rasullah wrote:why does everyone get confused when I talk about a soul as if it's something so abstract? How did we get emotions how does evolution explain this?
Really, different people mean different things when using the word soul. I just need to be clear which meaning you are using. Are the ideas of soul and emotions connected in your worldview?

Emotions are a property of the brain. Neurological chemicals, natural and artificial can effect them. So can surgery and electrical probes. The whole study of the evolution of emotions is quite fascinating, but they clearly evolved to provide an advantage to entities to react to situations without needing to cognate too long.

How does this relate to whether or not Islam or any other religion is right? Is your inability to understand where emotions come from part of your rationale for an eternal soul?

McCulloch wrote:Really, different people mean different things when using the word soul. I just need to be clear which meaning you are using. Are the ideas of soul and emotions connected in your worldview?

Yes, the soul is connected to a person well-being and emotions. Whatever you do will affect how you feel and you cannot feel or have emotions without a soul. what is a sou? A soul is the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans.

McCulloch wrote:How does this relate to whether or not Islam or any other religion is right? Is your inability to understand where emotions come from part of your rationale for an eternal soul?

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This relates to whether Islam is right in this regard. The fact that you believe and others in the evolution theory says that there is no existence of God, but by proving to you that there is a soul that every human has which was created by Allah. This will prove the evolution theory false with the limited information it has to support it and will prove what Allah says in the quran to be true that allah has created every soul and to him they shall all be returned.

How come when you poke a dead person they don't respond back and say stop poking me or some type of emotion? Why is this?