What is the 1000 Years Millennium?

[Pipiripi]

The Thousand Years Millennium

The word 'Millennium' doesn't appear in the Bible, although it is used throughout the world to describe the 1000 year millennial reign after the SECOND coming of Christ which we find in Revelation 20:2-7.
( Read it)
So there is no mistaking that this time period is going to be a 1000 years. But when does it start? The popular mainstream teaching is after the church is "rapture," the saints spent 7 years in heaven with Jesus while the great tribulation happens on earth. Then after the 7 years, they believe the church comes back to earth with Jesus where He will reign from Israel for a 1000 years. The rapture teaching is false. The seven years tribulation teaching is false and of course, this teaching of Jesus reigning on earth for 1000 years while the wicked continue to live is also false. So what is the truth? Let's find out.

STARTING POINT FOR THE 1000 YEAR MILLENNIUM.
From here the friendly debate begin.

[Pipiripi]

[Replying to post 3 by Pipiripi]

I have read REVELATION CHAPTER 20.

I will review it again, just in case.

I have re-read Revelation 20 and stand by everything I said. (please see the links in my post # 7 below)

Regards,

JW

Okay, I love your zealous for your believing. Read some more. Just a second.

[Pipiripi]

Starting Point for the 1000 years Millennium

Revelation 20:6 (read it)

So first of all, we need to find the starting point of the thousand year millennium. Can we get a starting from the above verses? Yes! We can see from this verse that the FIRST RESURRECTION START THE THOUSAND YEAR MILLENNIUM. Let's have a look at a couple more verses from the Bible with regards to the first resurrection.
Matthew 24;30-31
1Thess 4:16-17
So we have the second coming of Christ Jesus in the above scripture, where He send out His angels to gather the saved. The dead in Christ rise first then those who are in Christ's and still alive at His coming, they are 'caught up' with those who have been ressurected and they meet Christ in the air. A vital point to remember about the second coming of Christ, is that He does not toughed the ground when he return, we meet Him in the air. So we can clearly see THIS IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION ABOVE, and is the starting point of the 1000 year millennium.
From here if it is not clear, I will write some BIBLICAL more verses for a better understanding.

[Pipiripi]

The book of Revelation have many symbolic language. What you have just sent now is not spiritual. Is just men's idea.

No, everything I have said in the links above have been backed with the scriptures which are provided in each of my posts with links to further scriptural explanations. They symbolism of Revelation has been explained in my posts. If you contest something, provide the quote and the scripture you believe do not harmonize with the explanation and I will consider responding.




JEHOVAH'S WITNESS



FURTHER READING:

The book of revelation - what does it mean?
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/q ... revelation

What is the battle of Harmageddon?
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/q ... rmageddon/

Okay, I get your believing,what about mine believing so far? Is it Biblical or not?

[JehovahsWitness]

Okay, I get your believing,what about mine believing so far? Is it Biblical or not?

Ten out of ten for effort but unfortunately you have an incorrect understanding of the verses you are posting. If you are humble and ready to study more this can be remedied.

MATTEHW 24:30-31 (NKJV)
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

While Matthew is indeed referring to spirit anointed Christians that take part in the "first resurrection" (to go to heaven and rule for 1000 years with Jesus), that resurrected does not START when the last remaining ones are taken to heaven.



THE "FIRST RESURRECTION" BEGINS BEFORE CHRIST'S SECOND COMING

1 THESSOLONIANS 4:16-17 (KJV)
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Paul speaks about two "groups". He calls one group "we" and identifies them as the spirit anointed Christians that are as he said remaining, and "them" those already with Christ in heaven.

To illustrate: Image that all your family were going on holiday on the train. Some got their early and settled, some arrived at the last minute. Everyone had to be on the train before it left the station. All of Christ's brothers will be with him in heaven when the time comes to execute the wicked. Some had died earlier and were already settled in heaven some died and arrived later and some will be caught up just before the train leaves so no one is left behind.

In a similar way, "those that remain on earth" will be caught to meet the the others "them". So the "first resurrection" begins before Christ's second coming.




JW


RELATED POSTS

Who will be caught in the clouds and when?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 214#752214



I think English is not your native language - if you will tell me the language your mother spoke to you as a child, I will post links in your language, it may be easier.

FURTHER READING (Available in all languages)
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/110 ... &p=par#h=6

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 1 by Pipiripi]

STARTING POINT FOR THE 1000 YEAR MILLENNIUM.
From here the friendly debate begin.

It has begun with some interesting, yet predictable, posts.

Thanks for creating this thread, as suggested.

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 1 by Pipiripi]

The popular mainstream teaching is after the church is "rapture," the saints spent 7 years in heaven with Jesus while the great tribulation happens on earth. Then after the 7 years, they believe the church comes back to earth with Jesus where He will reign from Israel for a 1000 years. The rapture teaching is false. The seven years tribulation teaching is false

Yes, just one school of thought leading many astray.

So what is the truth? Let's find out.

And those who have ears to hear, let them hear what the Spirit says.

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 5 by Pipiripi]

Try to follow only your Bible, not your teaching.

Good advice, easy to say, often very hard to do.

Have you ever changed a major belief as a result?

I have!

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 5 by Pipiripi]

QUESTION: What happens after the 1000 YEAR rule of Christ?

After this 1000 year idyllic existence under Christ's rule, the bible explains that Satan the Devil (who had been chained and cast into a pit, inactive and unable to hurt mankind in any way) will once more be let loose. But Why?!

• Until then all humans had been imperfect, weakened by inherited sin (see Romans 5:12). But would humans off their own free will in a perfect state (similar to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden) choose God's rule or Satan? Adam and Eve failed this test, even though perfect they chose to oppose their God. In order to see if perfect humans, human without sin, would remain loyal to God, one last test would be necessary. It is for this reason Satan will be released from his 1000 year captivity to try once more to tempt people - people who for the first time in history are perfect sinless individuals (see Rev 20:7,8).
  
  Incredible as it may seem, some will indeed choose to join Satan in a final confrontation between good and evil (read Rev 20:8b). The outcome of this war is inevitable, God's ruling King JESUS will win and all those judged unworthy of everlasting life, having failed this final test will be destroyed forever along with Satan the Devil himself (Rev 20:10, 15).

Thus will end the 1000 year rule of Christ. All will have been returned to the order originally purposed in the Garden of Eden, obedient humans will be perfect and able to live on this planet earth in peace and perfect harmony with God and each other. Forever!

Hallelujah!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

That is why?

There is no such "final test", or "perfect humans" anywhere in scripture.

You can try to prove there is, but I don't think you can succeed.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 18 by Checkpoint]

We know Satan is set free after 1000 years because that is what the scripture say. The bible doesn't explicitly state why it happens but it must happen for a reason (compare Gen 2:17, 22, Genesis 3:15; Gen 1: 31; Romans 5:12, 1 Cor 15:45; Heb 4:15; 11:39-40; 1 John 3:8; Ps 62:12; Rev 22:3a).

Do you think God does things for no reason? You can try to prove Satan is set free for no reason but I don't think you can succeed.

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 18 by Checkpoint]

We know Satan is set free after 1000 years because that is what the scripture say.

The bible doesn't explicitly state why it happens but it must happen for a reason (compare Gen 2:17, 22, Genesis 3:15; Gen 1: 31; Romans 5:12, 1 Cor 15:45; Heb 4:15; 11:39-40; 1 John 3:8; Ps 62:12; Rev 22:3a).

Do you think God does things for no reason? You can try to prove Satan is set free for no reason but I don't think you can succeed.

Thus you have confirmed the claim I made in post 18.

Thank you.