Will all those who died before Armeggedon be raised to life?

[2timothy316]

There are those that think that everyone will be raised to life after Armageddon. This would include such people as Hitler and Judas Iscariot.

For debate, will everyone be resurrected after the end of this system of things or will there be some that will not? What do the scriptures say? If all people will be resurrected, is there no accountability for our actions now? Just as long as we kill ourselves before God judges us?

[myth-one.com]

Deceased nonbelievers are resurrected a 1000 years after the Second Coming to human life once again, and face judgment.

Deceased people who are not in Christ are resurrected at the end of the thousand years (yes).

Correct.

But at that time, some of these receive life (the resurrection of life), and some of these receive judgment and the second death (the resurrection of judgment.)

No, deceased people who are not in Christ are resurrected at the end of the thousand years and all of them face judgment!

Following the judgment, some of these, the ones with their names written in the Book of Life, receive the gift of everlasting life by being born of the Spirit.

The ones coming out of judgment whose names are not written in the Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire and suffer their second and everlasting death:

Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

[onewithhim]

There are those that think that everyone will be raised to life after Armageddon. This would include such people as Hitler and Judas Iscariot.

For debate, will everyone be resurrected after the end of this system of things or will there be some that will not? What do the scriptures say? If all people will be resurrected, is there no accountability for our actions now? Just as long as we kill ourselves before God judges us?

I believe that everyone who dies before Armageddon will be resurrected, with the most probable exceptions of people like Hitler and Judas and Adam. Jehovah knows what was in their hearts and will deal with them accordingly. Some people were/are just evil, according to their desires and their hateful feelings about God. Jehovah may not remember them, so to speak.

[myth-one.com]

I believe that everyone who dies before Armageddon will be resurrected, with the most probable exceptions of people like Hitler and Judas and Adam.

How do you explain the following verse?

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

The Bible also explains exactly when every human will be made alive again.

You've seen it several times.

Why do you resist the scriptures?

Being born of the Spirit gains one everlasting life, not simply being resurrected.

[2timothy316]

I believe that everyone who dies before Armageddon will be resurrected, with the most probable exceptions of people like Hitler and Judas and Adam.

How do you explain the following verse?

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

The Bible also explains exactly when every human will be made alive again.

You've seen it several times.

Why do you resist the scriptures?

Being born of the Spirit gains one everlasting life, not simply being resurrected.

Here is that verse in context.

"For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive. But each one in his own proper order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence. Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power." 1 Cor 22-24

Do you notice there is an order of group type as to when a person is 'make alive'? Paul as well as all other Christians who stayed faithful are the firstfruits, next those that belong to Christ during his presence, which is right now, those who finish their earthly course faithful get life. Lastly there are those that stay faithful through the 1000 year reign of Christ. Note, this is ONLY after has proven faithful to God and His Son, until then they are undergoing death. Even Paul while on Earth said of himself, "Miserable man that I am! Who will rescue me from the body undergoing this death?" Rom. 7:14-25.

Paul didn't receive life until he has proven himself faithful to the end of his life. Note Paul's last recorded words, "I have fought the fine fight, I have run the race to the finish, I have observed the faith. From this time on, there is reserved for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will give me as a reward in that day, yet not to me only, but also to all those who have loved his manifestation." - 2 Tim 4:7,8
Note, before his execution he understood that he had not been given everlasting life yet. He had not been made alive yet. But he knew it was coming as long as he kept fighting the fine fight. Which he did.

So, being made alive isn't automatic for just being born. There is more to it.

[myth-one.com]

I believe that everyone who dies before Armageddon will be resurrected, with the most probable exceptions of people like Hitler and Judas and Adam.

How do you explain the following verse?

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

The Bible also explains exactly when every human will be made alive again.

You've seen it several times.

Why do you resist the scriptures?

Being born of the Spirit gains one everlasting life, not simply being resurrected.

Here is that verse in context.

"For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive. But each one in his own proper order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence. Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power." 1 Cor 22-24

Do you notice there is an order of group type as to when a person is 'make alive'? Paul as well as all other Christians who stayed faithful are the firstfruits, next those that belong to Christ during his presence, which is right now, those who finish their earthly course faithful get life. Lastly there are those that stay faithful through the 1000 year reign of Christ. Note, this is ONLY after has proven faithful to God and His Son, until then they are undergoing death. Even Paul while on Earth said of himself, "Miserable man that I am! Who will rescue me from the body undergoing this death?" Rom. 7:14-25.

Paul didn't receive life until he has proven himself faithful to the end of his life. Note Paul's last recorded words, "I have fought the fine fight, I have run the race to the finish, I have observed the faith. From this time on, there is reserved for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will give me as a reward in that day, yet not to me only, but also to all those who have loved his manifestation." - 2 Tim 4:7,8
Note, before his execution he understood that he had not been given everlasting life yet. He had not been made alive yet. But he knew it was coming as long as he kept fighting the fine fight. Which he did.

So, being made alive isn't automatic for just being born. There is more to it.

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For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Jesus will be resurrected first, and that has already occurred:

But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the first fruits of them that slept. (I Corinthians 15:20)

The resurrection which we presently await is the one at which those "that are Christ's" will be resurrected. Those "that are Christ's" refers to Christians. This resurrection for all deceased Christians will occur at the Second Coming of Jesus to the earth, or "at his coming."

Christians who are alive at the Second Coming will be born again of the Spirit as spirits and meet Jesus and the resurrected Christians in the air.

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (I Thessalonians 4:17)

At this point after the first resurrection, all mankind who died as Christians along with Christians who were alive at the Second Coming have been born again of the Spirit as spiritual bodied beings. There are no more living or buried Christian humans. Every name in the Book of Life has received their inheritance.

They will then enjoy the Millennium Sabbath with Jesus:

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6)

The only remaining humans to be resurrected are the dead nonbelievers. These will be resurrected as humans after the thousand year Millennium:

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. (Revelation 20:4-5)

In Summary, the order is Jesus, believers, and nonbelievers. That covers every man who ever lived (all).

[2timothy316]

[onewithhim]

[tam]

Peace to you,

So will you (owh and timothy) just ignore the verses posted in post 7?

Some of those verses are Christ's own words, and it is clear that ALL who are in their graves will come out/rise/awaken/be resurrected (some to life, some to judgment/condemnation/second death).

There is no mention of a second chance or 'do-over'.


Peace again to you both.

[myth-one.com]

During the thousand years resurrected people will have time to learn about Christ and his Father, and they will make up their minds about serving them during this time. At the end of the thousand years all will be given the choice of either serving Jehovah and accepting His Son, or going with Satan. Those that stay with Jehovah and Jesus will "come to life" then. That's when they inherit everlasting life, so that's why it says they will "come to life." They are not resurrected after the thousand years. What would happen during those years according to your belief? It makes sense that people would be given all those years to become perfect and learn about Jesus and make their decision for life or death.

This is absolutely wrong according to the scriptures!

At the Second coming, all deceased believers will be resurrected to everlasting life. Christians who are alive on the earth when Jesus returns will be born again as spirits and meet them in the air. These Christians are no longer human. They are spiritual bodied beings living within the Kingdom of God. Jesus has returned to the earth, prevailed against Satan, and the earth has rejoined the Kingdom of God. That leaves absolutely zero human Christians on the earth! They will then spend the 1000 year Millennium with Jesus.

Consequently, there will be no more human converts to Christianity during the 1000 years as they have no preacher to preach the gospel to them:

Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Thus, your claims above make no sense according to the scriptures.

Humans living on the earth during the Millennium will be able to accept Jesus as their Savior during their judgment -- which occurs after the second resurrection at the end of the Millennium.

[onewithhim]

During the thousand years resurrected people will have time to learn about Christ and his Father, and they will make up their minds about serving them during this time. At the end of the thousand years all will be given the choice of either serving Jehovah and accepting His Son, or going with Satan. Those that stay with Jehovah and Jesus will "come to life" then. That's when they inherit everlasting life, so that's why it says they will "come to life." They are not resurrected after the thousand years. What would happen during those years according to your belief? It makes sense that people would be given all those years to become perfect and learn about Jesus and make their decision for life or death.

This is absolutely wrong according to the scriptures!

At the Second coming, all deceased believers will be resurrected to everlasting life. Christians who are alive on the earth when Jesus returns will be born again as spirits and meet them in the air. These Christians are no longer human. They are spiritual bodied beings living within the Kingdom of God. Jesus has returned to the earth, prevailed against Satan, and the earth has rejoined the Kingdom of God. That leaves absolutely zero human Christians on the earth! They will then spend the 1000 year Millennium with Jesus.

Consequently, there will be no more human converts to Christianity during the 1000 years as they have no preacher to preach the gospel to them:

Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Thus, your claims above make no sense according to the scriptures.

Humans living on the earth during the Millennium will be able to accept Jesus as their Savior during their judgment -- which occurs after the second resurrection at the end of the Millennium.

I have demonstrated with scriptural backup the truth about the resurrection. All those who can be taught will be resurrected and/or never die and walk into the New System. There is no justice if, for example, Satan was allowed to live, and his cohorts on this earth. Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler and others might just have been evil. Why should they be resurrected? If they will be, they will have to answer to God whether or not they will bend their knees to Jesus and Jehovah, and they might just refuse, according to their hearts. Well, we shall see. If they are resurrected, I will stand corrected.

My claims above make perfect sense. I hope the others who read these posts will see that what I am saying goes right along with the Scriptures. What sense does it make that the resurrection happens at the END of the thousand years? People will have no time to learn and make up their minds about who they want to worship, whereas if they had a thousand years...that makes sense.

Why do you say that there will be no preacher to preach to people during the thousand years? There will be millions of Christians that will teach people the truth.