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Hi all,

Here is a good talk on Joshua 5:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV
13 Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, “Are you for us or for our enemies?”

14 “Neither,” he replied, “but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.” Then Joshua fell facedown to the ground in reverence, and asked him, “What message does my Lord[e] have for his servant?”

15 The commander of the Lord’s army replied, “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so.
Would Joshua bow down to not God? Don't angels say hey stop worshipping me if they are not God? Why was Joshua commanded to take off his sandals (think back to Moses)?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Capbook wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:45 am Clarke interpret Joshua's bow as divine worship to the captain of the host of the LORD.
I don't care.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:08 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:45 am Clarke interpret Joshua's bow as divine worship to the captain of the host of the LORD.
I don't care.
And so is JFB believes it is Jesus. Any support of your denial?
Joshua 5:14
Captain (Ex 15:8) of the host of the Lord - either the Israelite people (Ex 7:4; 12:41; Isa 55:4), or the angels (Ps 148:2), or both included; and the Captain of it was the Angel of the Covenant, whose visible manifestations were varied according to the occasion, and who on this occasion appeared to conduct God's people into the land of promise. Some consider this to be the created angel (Ex 33:2-3) who was substituted for the Angel of the Presence (Ex 33:20-23) in superintending the Sinaitic economy, after the grievous offence caused by the people in the affair of the golden calf. But the address and the adoration of Joshua, the holiness communicated to the spot by the presence of this Personage, and the application to him of the name Yahweh (Josh 6:2), identify Him with the Angel the Lord, the Second Person of the Trinity. His attitude of equipment betokened his approval of, and interest in, the war of invasion.
(from Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown Commentary)

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Capbook wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:06 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:08 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:45 am Clarke interpret Joshua's bow as divine worship to the captain of the host of the LORD.
I don't care.
And so is JFB believes it is Jesus. Any support of your denial?
Dis I sas Josiah didnt meet Jesus in his prehuman form?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:53 am
Capbook wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:06 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:08 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:45 am Clarke interpret Joshua's bow as divine worship to the captain of the host of the LORD.
I don't care.
And so is JFB believes it is Jesus. Any support of your denial?
Dis I sas Josiah didnt meet Jesus in his prehuman form?
I mean your reply (I don't care) to Clarke's interpretation of Joshua 5.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:58 am
I mean your reply (I don't care) to Clarke's interpretation of Joshua 5.
I don't care because I do not hold and human as the authority of my faith.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:07 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:58 am
I mean your reply (I don't care) to Clarke's interpretation of Joshua 5.
I don't care because I do not hold and human as the authority of my faith.
I believe the ruling council of your church are humans, also are my commentaries.
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the ruling council of Jehovah's Witnesses. (quoted online)

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:34 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:07 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:58 am
I mean your reply (I don't care) to Clarke's interpretation of Joshua 5.
I don't care because I do not hold and human as the authority of my faith.
I believe the ruling council of your church are humans, also are my commentaries.
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the ruling council of Jehovah's Witnesses. (quoted online)
I hold none of the above as the authority of my faith ; I answer for that to the Almighty alone.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:44 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:34 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:07 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:58 am
I mean your reply (I don't care) to Clarke's interpretation of Joshua 5.
I don't care because I do not hold and human as the authority of my faith.
I believe the ruling council of your church are humans, also are my commentaries.
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the ruling council of Jehovah's Witnesses. (quoted online)
I hold none of the above as the authority of my faith ; I answer for that to the Almighty alone.
Is that so? But I believe you will not go beyond the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs.

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Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:22 am But I believe you will not go beyond the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs.
I am absolutely not interested in your beliefs (especially if one of them is that I am a liar). Further , I don't see that my beliefs (much less my faith) is the topic of discussion, so perhaps you could return to the topic.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:06 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:22 am But I believe you will not go beyond the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs.
I am absolutely not interested in your beliefs (especially if one of them is that I am a liar). Further , I don't see that my beliefs (much less my faith) is the topic of discussion, so perhaps you could return to the topic.
Ok, as I understand it you will go beyond.
Joshua sees Jesus, and I believe we agree with it.

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