The age of miracles

[Athetotheist]

It's not really my intention to make a whole thread out of this; I just mean to pose a question as a point of curiosity: Can anyone refer me to textual evidence that the age of miracles was to end with the passing of the apostles?

[brianbbs67]

[Replying to post 177 by Checkpoint]

Wow. You are now your "evil twin," as my sister calls my son Danny when he forgets all the good things he says and starts speaking things that are harsh and basically makes no sense. I'll get back in the discussion when your real self comes back.



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It is not evil(contrary to God) to speak the truth. Israel denied no circumsized the Passover nor would christ deny bread and drink. That thing is man made. Like all the things Yeshua(Joshua) railed against that kept the masses from doing the will of God. To quote him "you have a fine way of doing such things"

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 177 by Checkpoint]

Wow. You are now your "evil twin," as my sister calls my son Danny when he forgets all the good things he says and starts speaking things that are harsh and basically makes no sense. I'll get back in the discussion when your real self comes back.

There is no evil twin, onewithhim.

We have discussed this reaction you are now having, more than once. What you separate as my "evil twin" and my "real self" is the expression of the one person I am.

As others do, I write of things and situations as I see them to be; I call a spade a spade, not a fork or a shovel.

You still don't get what that means in practice. It seems to make no sense to you, that I say good things about JWs and also things that are harsh.

Have a little ponder about these questions I will now ask you. It may help.

Have I treated JWs as fellow-believers or not?

Have I ever depicted them as being unsaved, or unable to be saved, because they are trapped in a "sect" that has false doctrines, which is how most others depict them?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 177 by Checkpoint]

Wow. You are now your "evil twin," as my sister calls my son Danny when he forgets all the good things he says and starts speaking things that are harsh and basically makes no sense. I'll get back in the discussion when your real self comes back.

Have I treated JWs as fellow-believers or not?

Have I ever depicted them as being unsaved, or unable to be saved, because they are trapped in a "sect" that has false doctrines, which is how most others depict them?

Sometimes you seem to treat JWs as fellow-believers, and at other times...a definite no.
You sometimes say things to lead a person to believe that you think JWs have false doctrines.


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[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 177 by Checkpoint]

Wow. You are now your "evil twin," as my sister calls my son Danny when he forgets all the good things he says and starts speaking things that are harsh and basically makes no sense. I'll get back in the discussion when your real self comes back.

Have I treated JWs as fellow-believers or not?

Have I ever depicted them as being unsaved, or unable to be saved, because they are trapped in a "sect" that has false doctrines, which is how most others depict them?

Sometimes you seem to treat JWs as fellow-believers, and at other times...a definite no.
You sometimes say things to lead a person to believe that you think JWs have false doctrines.


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Yes, I do think Jws have some false doctrines, just as I think they have some truthful doctrines.

I do the same with non-JW believers, including any who post here.

So, what's your problem with me, really, do you think??

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 184 by Checkpoint]

I just expect a person to be consistent. You think that every religion has good things and bad things, and that sets right with you. For me, if a religion has some bad things about it I reject the whole thing. I don't find anything bad about JWs.


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[Tcg]

[Replying to post 184 by Checkpoint]

I just expect a person to be consistent. You think that every religion has good things and bad things, and that sets right with you. For me, if a religion has some bad things about it I reject the whole thing. I don't find anything bad about JWs.

Others report very different findings:

• Former Jehovah's Witnesses speak out about childhood abuse, say it was 'covered up'
  
  Diane Lynn was just a toddler when her mother was door-knocked by a Jehovah's Witness, offering the hope of a future of paradise on Earth.
  
  Instead, Ms Lynn was subjected to years of sexual abuse at the hands of a member of her mother's new congregation.
  
  And when she finally found the courage to speak out she was greeted with inaction and cover-ups, even as the abuse continued.
  
  Ms Lynn is one of more than 1,800 alleged victims of child sex abuse within the Jehovah's Witness organisation in submissions to the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.
  
  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-10/ ... d/11561776

Allowing child sexual abuse, and indeed covering this crime up, is indeed bad.

Tcg

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 186 by Tcg]

I don't believe it, and you had best be careful about spreading lies. If it is true at all, it is the mother that should be blamed. Why would she let her daughter be alone with that beast? No one does that. No one allows their child to be alone with any man....no one that I know of, and no one would who has any brains at all. It's such a joke. JWs get blamed for things that the PARENTS are responsible for! You look out for your child and do not allow them to be alone with a male that is not their father. I can't imagine letting my daughter go off alone with any man for any reason. All that stuff about "cover-ups" is nonsense, as well.

Ex-JWs are liars. I've known many of them.



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[tam]

Peace to you,

[Replying to post 177 by Checkpoint]

Wow. You are now your "evil twin," as my sister calls my son Danny when he forgets all the good things he says and starts speaking things that are harsh and basically makes no sense. I'll get back in the discussion when your real self comes back.



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It is not evil(contrary to God) to speak the truth. Israel denied no circumsized the Passover

Yes and this is an excellent point.

nor would christ deny bread and drink.

Indeed. Some might want to read through John 6 (perhaps specifically 48-58, making note of who may eat and drink).


"But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die."

"For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them."




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 184 by Checkpoint]

I just expect a person to be consistent. You think that every religion has good things and bad things, and that sets right with you. For me, if a religion has some bad things about it I reject the whole thing. I don't find anything bad about JWs.

Well, I am consistent. But it seems you expect me to be like you and find only good things about JWs.

That would not be consistency but inconsistency, for me.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 189 by Checkpoint]

Do you think that the things that you find to be negative about JWs are worth more, in declining to join them, than the good things you find about their beliefs?

You believe, I think, that the Father is God, and Jesus is not. That is not enough to cause you to think that maybe it would be worth chillin' with JWs instead of any other group? I think that you respect Jehovah's name, even if you prefer to say "Yaveh." JWs are the only ones that use His name consistently. Is that not enough to show you that they must have something there? Why get tangled up in the argument that all Christians should partake of the emblems at the Memorial? Is that more important than knowing exactly who God is, using His name, and getting to know Him?


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