Was Jesus crucified on the Passover, of earlier?

polonius · Post by **polonius** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:18 pm

The question is whether the Sabbath which came the next day was a Saturday Sabbath or the Passover Sabbath or both. I believe that all the evidence is unanimous that Jesus was crucufied on the day before the Passover. Matthew confirms this, as in Matthew 27:62 he says that the day after the crucifixion was the "one after Preparation Day" (ie preparation day for the Passover.

And John has no Eucharist account at the last supper.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:24 am

brianbbs67 wrote: This is what I have come to believe of the 2 Sabbaths of the passion week. Fixes the whole debate.

http://thewayofthemessiah.org/tsp.html

Well yes and no. Nisan 15 (the fist day of the festival of loaves) was considered a Sabbath (no matter what day of the week it fell on see Lev. 23:4). So of course there would have been years when there were 2 Sabbath same week* (ie the regular weekly sabbath and the festival sabbath).

In the year Jesus died though it seems this was not the case.

JW

* Other festival days were also considered Sabbaths.

Yahwehismywitness · Post by **Yahwehismywitness** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:12 pm

There is a clue nobody mentioned in Leviticus and Deuteronomy it states to drink wine Leviticus 23:13, Deuteronomy 16:13, Matthew 26:27-29

This was not weekly Saturday Sabbath, this was 7 day Passover Seder meal first day no work Seder meal something you can eat fast such as flat bread

brianbbs67 · Post by **brianbbs67** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:05 pm

JehovahsWitness wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: This is what I have come to believe of the 2 Sabbaths of the passion week. Fixes the whole debate.

http://thewayofthemessiah.org/tsp.html

Well yes and no. Nisan 15 (the fist day of the festival of loaves) was considered a Sabbath (no matter what day of the week it fell on see Lev. 23:4). So of course there would have been years when there were 2 Sabbath same week* (ie the regular weekly sabbath and the festival sabbath).

In the year Jesus died though it seems this was not the case.

JW

* Other festival days were also considered Sabbaths.

What year did he die? It wasn't 33ad.

31 Ad seems to match scripture

http://intercontinentalcog.org/Appendix ... -34_AD.php

Yahwehismywitness · Post by **Yahwehismywitness** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:01 am

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!â€� Isa 14:12

Definitely not morning when he arose

brianbbs67 · Post by **brianbbs67** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:50 pm

Yehwahismywitness wrote: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!â€� Isa 14:12

Definitely not morning when he arose

Before others are confused, Lucifer means bringer of light. The morning star. It is a misnomer for Ha'satan. Whose true name is hidden also.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:00 am

brianbbs67 wrote:
JehovahsWitness wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: This is what I have come to believe of the 2 Sabbaths of the passion week. Fixes the whole debate.

http://thewayofthemessiah.org/tsp.html

Well yes and no. Nisan 15 (the fist day of the festival of loaves) was considered a Sabbath (no matter what day of the week it fell on see Lev. 23:4). So of course there would have been years when there were 2 Sabbath same week* (ie the regular weekly sabbath and the festival sabbath).

In the year Jesus died though it seems this was not the case.

JW

* Other festival days were also considered Sabbaths.
What year did he die? It wasn't 33ad.

Why do you say that?

Yahwehismywitness · Post by **Yahwehismywitness** » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:21 am

Before others are confused, Lucifer means bringer of light. The morning star. It is a misnomer for Ha'satan. Whose true name is hidden also.

Why then do you think Yahweh's holy Sabbath begins at sundown and ends sundown the next day? This began during creation prior to Satan's fall.

polonius · Post by **polonius** » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:44 am

JehovahsWitness wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: This is what I have come to believe of the 2 Sabbaths of the passion week. Fixes the whole debate.

http://thewayofthemessiah.org/tsp.html

Well yes and no. Nisan 15 (the fist day of the festival of loaves) was considered a Sabbath (no matter what day of the week it fell on see Lev. 23:4). So of course there would have been years when there were 2 Sabbath same week* (ie the regular weekly sabbath and the festival sabbath).

In the year Jesus died though it seems this was not the case.

JW

* Other festival days were also considered Sabbaths.

QUESTION: How do you know precisely the year that Jesus died? Please provide your reference.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:35 am

polonius wrote:
JehovahsWitness wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: This is what I have come to believe of the 2 Sabbaths of the passion week. Fixes the whole debate.

http://thewayofthemessiah.org/tsp.html

Well yes and no. Nisan 15 (the fist day of the festival of loaves) was considered a Sabbath (no matter what day of the week it fell on see Lev. 23:4). So of course there would have been years when there were 2 Sabbath same week* (ie the regular weekly sabbath and the festival sabbath).

In the year Jesus died though it seems this was not the case.

JW

* Other festival days were also considered Sabbaths.

QUESTION: How do you know precisely the year that Jesus died? Please provide your reference.

Did I say I did?

brianbbs67 · Post by **brianbbs67** » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:40 am

Yehwahismywitness wrote:
Before others are confused, Lucifer means bringer of light. The morning star. It is a misnomer for Ha'satan. Whose true name is hidden also.
Why then do you think Yahweh's holy Sabbath begins at sundown and ends sundown the next day? This began during creation prior to Satan's fall.

Because evening and morning were the first day.