Location o Christ and his co-rulers during the millenium

[JehovahsWitness]

Revelation 20 verse 6 speaks of Christ ruling with others for the 1,000 years. As one if Jehovahs Witnesses I understand ...

a) Jesus will rule over humans beings (not spirits) that are NOT designated as kings
b) The subjects (those not designated as kings) will live on earth
c) Jesus will not relocate from heaven to rule from a specific location on earth but will rather be in heaven ruling over the earth.

Please share your thoughts on any or all of the points. How do you understand Revelation 20:6 as regards to

a) subjects : who ir what will he rule over?
b: location where will the subjects his rule live?
c) location where will Jesus (and his co-rulers) be situated during this rule?

[PinSeeker]

ONLY Jesus and God the Father rule?

Yes. God the Father and God the Son are One now -- though distinct Persons -- and they will be for eternity also; They do not change or become somehow "different at the passing of this world. Again, paraphrasing from Revelation 22:1, "...the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the New Jerusalem, on the New Earth.

If so, in what sense then will "we be co-rulers of the literal, consummated kingdom in Christ?

I did not say "co-rulers," but rather co-heirs. Are you twisting my words to be something they are not, or are you putting words into my mouth, Jehovah's Witness? If either is the case, there is no need to go any further.

LUKE 22:28-30 -- You are the ones who have stood by Me in My trials. And I bestow on you a kingdom, just as My Father has bestowed on Me, so that you may eat and drink at My table in My kingdom, and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Right, and to this I would point out what Paul also says:

• "Remember Jesus Christ... It is a trustworthy statement: For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him; If we endure, we will also reign with Him..." [2 Timothy 2:8-12]

But Paul also says:

• "And He (God) put all things in subjection under His (Jesus's) feet, and gave Him (Jesus) as head over all things to the church, which is His (Jesus's) body (Christians), the fullness of Him (Jesus) who fills all in all." [Ephesians 1:22-23]

So here's how I read all that. The Father and the Son fill the universe with Their own glorious rule -- which is one and the same -- through us. In this way we share in that rule, we are the fullness of that rule. As Jesus's co-heirs, we will rule on His behalf, by His power, under His authority. In that sense, we sit with him on his throne. It is a spiritual rule, not a literal rule, that we partake in. I guess you can call it a sub-rule, of sorts; Jesus is the King of kings, the Lord of lords. So, in the new heavens and the new earth, it is still God the Father and God the Son on the throne as Ruler (capital 'R'), but as co-heirs with Jesus, we are rulers (small case 'r'). In my opinion, none of us feels this as we should. It is too much " too good, too amazing. Thats why Paul prays for Gods help that:

• ...the eyes of your hearts (would be) enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you. [Ephesians 1:18]

Grace and peace to you, JH (and all others here).

[PinSeeker]

His rule continues until the last enemy is destroyed, making way for the new order... Jesus reigns 'until' the end of the old order, which includes the millenium.

His rule of this world as it exist now, in this order. Right. I agree. 100%.

What will be his place in the new order?

"His" -- you mean Jesus's, right? Well, see my response to Jehovah's Witness above. God the Father (Who is Spirit) and God the Son (the God-man) rule on the Throne, as per Revelation 22:1. Jesus is now and will always be King of kings and Lord of lords; in this sense we are co-heirs of the kingdom with Him.

Grace and peace to you, and to all.

To you also, Checkpoint.

[myth-one.com]

Where will the individuals described above spend eternity?

There are simply two groups of individuals -- those with their names written in the book of life and those whose names are not written in the book of life.

Those whose names are not written in the book of life have no eternity.

They die in the lake of fire -- never to live again. They return to dust.

Those with their names written in the book of life are born again with new, immortal, spiritual bodies.

They will then reign forever with the Word over the earth.

And their job location will be the earth -- which will once again join the Kingdom of God.

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The scriptures never indicate that born again Christians cannot or will not go to heaven. After all, it is also within the Kingdom of Heaven.

However, their home base will definitely be the good earth!

[myth-one.com]

..., those of mankind who choose everlasting life as earthly caretakers should be less inclined to revolt.

So people will be offered a choice between earthly and heavenly life and some will choose to spend eternity on earth?

For goodness sake!

The choice for every human is between everlasting life or everlasting death.

[JehovahsWitness]

..., those of mankind who choose everlasting life as earthly caretakers should be less inclined to revolt.

So people will be offered a choice between earthly and heavenly life and some will choose to spend eternity on earth?

For goodness sake!

The choice for every human is between everlasting life or everlasting death.

What did you mean by the expression "everlasting life as earthly caretakers"?

Will this good earth be a physical realm ( carbon based physical elements) ? Will there be trees? Seasons? Animals? or will it be a spiritual realm (like the heavens that Jesus refered to when he said "our Father who art in heaven")?

[JehovahsWitness]

Those with their names written in the book of life are born again with new, immortal, spiritual bodies. ..However, their home base will definitely be the good earth!

So they will never have a permanent home with God in heaven. And this is true for Jesus? he will visit but he will not spend eternity as a permanent resident with his Father ever again?

[JehovahsWitness]

So, in the new heavens and the new earth, it is still God the Father and God the Son on the throne as Ruler (capital 'R'), but as co-heirs with Jesus, we are rulers (small case 'r').

I apologise if you already said but...in the new heavens and the new earth..who or what will you be ruling (smal r) over?

We will be co-heirs of the literal, consummated kingdom in Christ, here on earth

And how does that rulership differ from what preceded during the millenium? In short how will the function and position (and responsibilities) in this future consummated kingdom in Christ differ from those during the millenium?

Revelation 20:6 New International Version (NIV)
Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. ...they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

[myth-one.com]

..., those of mankind who choose everlasting life as earthly caretakers should be less inclined to revolt.

So people will be offered a choice between earthly and heavenly life and some will choose to spend eternity on earth?

For goodness sake!

The choice for every human is between everlasting life or everlasting death.

What did you mean by the expression "everlasting life as earthly caretakers"?

Humans are being groomed to replace the angels which were assigned to care for the earth.

God apparently thought that those caretakers would need longevity -- so He created them as immortal.

Likewise, believers will be upgraded to everlasting spiritual bodies.

Replenishing the earth will be our first assignment.

Perhaps it will be our first estate, and not everlasting.

Will this good earth be a physical realm ( carbon based physical elements) ?

Yes.

Will there be trees? Seasons? Animals?

It will be a result of how it is cared for.

At present, man is rapidly destroying it.

Perhaps Jesus will be a better leader, and born again Christians will be better followers.

[myth-one.com]

Those with their names written in the book of life are born again with new, immortal, spiritual bodies. ..However, their home base will definitely be the good earth!

So they will never have a permanent home with God in heaven. And this is true for Jesus? he will visit but he will not spend eternity as a permanent resident with his Father ever again?

God is omnipresent, so "heaven" would have to be everywhere.

Consequently, we visit Him constantly.

But the Bible never states that Christians are going to heaven anyway!

It always indicates that believers will enter or become members of the Kingdom of Heaven or Kingdom of God:

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Matthew 7:21)

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;... (I Corinthians 15:50)

Although these two terms are used interchangeable, the Kingdom of Heaven applies to the geographical location, whereas the Kingdom of God applies to the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Heaven.

We are told specifically where the Kingdom of God is located, and it is not any geographical location:

The Kingdom of God cometh not with observance: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (Luke 17:20-21)

[myth-one.com]

ONLY Jesus and God the Father rule?

If so, in what sense then will "we be co-rulers of the literal, consummated kingdom in Christ?

I did not say "co-rulers," but rather co-heirs.

Actually, we shall rule with our Lord and Savior:

. . . we shall also reign with him:

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6)

4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

Definition of reign: hold royal office; rule as king or queen.