The Shortest Way To The Truth

[OneJack]

The Shortest Way To The Truth

There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:

1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.

2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.

Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.

[OneJack]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #30]
As I’ve told you, the Lord trained us to know Satan and his devil through actual encounters with them, yet you still insist on further questioning me in a way as if you were totally alien to the existence of both the Lord Jesus and the devil, Satan. What absolute facts do you know about Jesus and that of Satan, which is/are your meter sticks in evaluating someone’s claim about them in a conversation like this?

[OneJack]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #30]

While it is true "a house divided cannot stand" how would a demon manipulating a child into believing he is communicating with God represent a "dividing" of Satan's house?

Have you encountered a demon, or Satan himself, telling you, “All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or universe. I created all things, I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go,” when and where if you have?

Why would Satan’s house not crumble to pieces if He himself were drawing people nigh to God? Would there be anything left to him in this case?

How would establishing of a family based denomination that diminishes trust in the bible canon and defers all final validation therein to these self same "spirits" be anything but a clever scheme to distance the gullible from Yahweh/Jehovah/YHWH the True God and get them involved in spiritism by another name?

Who established ‘family base denomination,’ btw? Could you pinpoint your so-called ‘clever scheme’ [that distances the ‘gullible’ from YHWH] in this utterance of the Almighty God, whose name is Jesus, to wit:

All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or universe. I created all things, I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go.

"Remember, eternal life and your salvation are in My hands. If you want to be saved, come and draw near to Me. If you want eternal life, come and call upon Me. Trust in Me, because if you don't, you will have no salvation and no eternal life. You will have nowhere to go but to calamity and suffering. But if you draw near to Me, you will attain nothing but peace – peace if you accept it, if you trust in Me, if you believe in Me with all your heart and all your love. Love Me with all your heart, and worship none other but Me, the one and only Lord.”

Where is that ‘clever scheme’ that you accused us of?

[Capbook]

Neither have you heard anything yet nor witnessed Jesus talking to Satan, have you?

I've read the written passage, Jesus' encounter with the devil.
But why you didn't answer the question?

Here again, if he did recall, why he chose to always say "it is written?"
Do your Jesus mean he was wrong when he relied to what is written?

Jesus didn’t chose to always say ‘it’s written’ every time He encountered the devil (Matt 8:28-32; Mark 5:1-13, and Luke 8:26-33).

But why in that direct encounter with the devil (the ranking leader Satan), the true Jesus relied to "what is written?"
As you believe that he is the most powerful Almighty God, why not use his power instead of what was written?

Verses you quote, speaks of the demons, followers of the devil (leader Satan) not Satan himself, different scenario.

The Lord needs nothing but Himself, alone, to punish Satan and his devil, but you opined He depended on the written words in the bible instead to deal with the latter. Jesus, in this context, employed self-control in dealing with Satan while He was still in the flesh.

It's not my opinion,it is written, you and I can read it in the Bible.
Employed self-control by fully relying to what is written?
Does it mean that "what is written" is significant or not?

[OneJack]

I've read the written passage, Jesus' encounter with the devil.
But why you didn't answer the question?

Here again, if he did recall, why he chose to always say "it is written?"
Do your Jesus mean he was wrong when he relied to what is written?

Jesus didn’t chose to always say ‘it’s written’ every time He encountered the devil (Matt 8:28-32; Mark 5:1-13, and Luke 8:26-33).

But why in that direct encounter with the devil (the ranking leader Satan), the true Jesus relied to "what is written?"
As you believe that he is the most powerful Almighty God, why not use his power instead of what was written?

Verses you quote, speaks of the demons, followers of the devil (leader Satan) not Satan himself, different scenario.

The Lord needs nothing but Himself, alone, to punish Satan and his devil, but you opined He depended on the written words in the bible instead to deal with the latter. Jesus, in this context, employed self-control in dealing with Satan while He was still in the flesh.

It's not my opinion,it is written, you and I can read it in the Bible.
Employed self-control by fully relying to what is written?
Does it mean that "what is written" is significant or not?

Take the answer from Jesus for you to be fully satisfied.

[Capbook]

Jesus didn’t chose to always say ‘it’s written’ every time He encountered the devil (Matt 8:28-32; Mark 5:1-13, and Luke 8:26-33).

But why in that direct encounter with the devil (the ranking leader Satan), the true Jesus relied to "what is written?"
As you believe that he is the most powerful Almighty God, why not use his power instead of what was written?

Verses you quote, speaks of the demons, followers of the devil (leader Satan) not Satan himself, different scenario.

The Lord needs nothing but Himself, alone, to punish Satan and his devil, but you opined He depended on the written words in the bible instead to deal with the latter. Jesus, in this context, employed self-control in dealing with Satan while He was still in the flesh.

It's not my opinion,it is written, you and I can read it in the Bible.
Employed self-control by fully relying to what is written?
Does it mean that "what is written" is significant or not?

Take the answer from Jesus for you to be fully satisfied.

Yes, the true Jesus answered the leader Satan by what is written and I'm satisfied with passage.
You did not answer the question, is the "what is written" significant or not?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #30]

While it is true "a house divided cannot stand" how would a demon manipulating a child into believing he is communicating with God represent a "dividing" of Satan's house?

Have you encountered a demon, or Satan himself, telling you, “All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or universe. I created all things, I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go,” when and where if you have?

There is nothing in this statement that a demon cannot say (he didn't even identify himself by the Divine name YHWH) or are you claiming that demons can't say anything that is true or that Satan cannot quote or refer to scripture? If so, where did you get that idea ?

[JehovahsWitness]

Where is that ‘clever scheme’ that you accused us of?

The clever scheme is not you (you and your family would be the victims) the clever scheme would be the intelligent demons ...

1. Stealing an identity : Claiming to be Almighty God but failing to identify Himself by the tetragramaton.

2. Falsly claiming to have the authority to validate scripture thereby implying He (the spirit being (s) ) can proclaim parts of the inspired scripture "invalid". This undermines the authority of the bible and leaving the victims with no way to verify the demonic "revelations".

3. Duping a minor (without adult supervision), who lacks the experience to interrogate and verify into an agreement to what amounts to spiritism.

4. Using intimidation techniques (classic "Good cop /bad cop" strategy) one demon appearing in a terrifying "devil" and then his partner appearing as a "benevolent angel" butin reality BOTH being wicked; thereby manipulating the victim(s) into trusting the second appearance .

5. Using truths , half-truths and flat-out lies (see above) to manipulate the victim ( and his family) into shifting their focus from trust in scripture to trusting their (fake "angels) word; thus worshipping a false "imitation" God.

[OneJack]

But why in that direct encounter with the devil (the ranking leader Satan), the true Jesus relied to "what is written?"
As you believe that he is the most powerful Almighty God, why not use his power instead of what was written?

Verses you quote, speaks of the demons, followers of the devil (leader Satan) not Satan himself, different scenario.

The Lord needs nothing but Himself, alone, to punish Satan and his devil, but you opined He depended on the written words in the bible instead to deal with the latter. Jesus, in this context, employed self-control in dealing with Satan while He was still in the flesh.

It's not my opinion,it is written, you and I can read it in the Bible.
Employed self-control by fully relying to what is written?
Does it mean that "what is written" is significant or not?

Take the answer from Jesus for you to be fully satisfied.

Yes, the true Jesus answered the leader Satan by what is written and I'm satisfied with passage.
You did not answer the question, is the "what is written" significant or not?

The answer is NO! The real and forever-living Lord Jesus Christ is the one who only matters the most, hence, SIGNIFICANT in all issues!

[OneJack]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #30]

While it is true "a house divided cannot stand" how would a demon manipulating a child into believing he is communicating with God represent a "dividing" of Satan's house?

Have you encountered a demon, or Satan himself, telling you, “All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or universe. I created all things, I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go,” when and where if you have?

There is nothing in this statement that a demon cannot say

True, there’s nothing that a demon can’t say, but what you don’t know is the consequence that Satan and his devil must face when they declare themselves the phrase ‘I’m the Almighty God,’ hence, you can’t present any declaration from Satan and his devil that is as sacred as that declaration from God alone.

(he didn't even identify himself by the Divine name YHWH)

This one, absolutely, proves the pedantic instinct infused in your mind by the scriptures instead of being an advocate and follower of the Almighty God, whose name is Jesus. If you were under the shepherding of the Lord Jesus, the phrase ‘the Almighty, or Almighty God’ would strike a deep scar in your mind to mean ‘no other’ but the one true God, who is YHWH in other languages, Makapangyarihan sa lahat na Panginoong Dios in Tagalog language, etc., etc.

or are you claiming that demons can't say anything that is true

Do I? All I know is they don’t exist for the truth.

or that Satan cannot quote or refer to scripture?

Whoaah!!!! If you only knew Satan’s prowess in this field, you would pluck a stone and hit it on your head at once.

If so, where did you get that idea ?

The Almighty God is the only source of my knowledge nowadays, who shepherded us for approximately 14 years. His name is Jesus.

[Capbook]

The Lord needs nothing but Himself, alone, to punish Satan and his devil, but you opined He depended on the written words in the bible instead to deal with the latter. Jesus, in this context, employed self-control in dealing with Satan while He was still in the flesh.

It's not my opinion,it is written, you and I can read it in the Bible.
Employed self-control by fully relying to what is written?
Does it mean that "what is written" is significant or not?

Take the answer from Jesus for you to be fully satisfied.

Yes, the true Jesus answered the leader Satan by what is written and I'm satisfied with passage.
You did not answer the question, is the "what is written" significant or not?

The answer is NO! The real and forever-living Lord Jesus Christ is the one who only matters the most, hence, SIGNIFICANT in all issues!

And also the sacrifice of Jesus dying for us as written, is insignificant to your Jesus OneJack?