According to the authoritative Bible, was Jesus seen by individuals both before and after the resurrection?
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Was Jesus seen?
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Re: Was Jesus seen?
Post #31Peace again to you all,
[Replying to tam in post #30]
Just to add something to the previous post:
When Christ says God, He is referring to His Father. But He is not referring to one part of a three-person God. He is referring to the MOST Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAH. (Psalm 68:4)
From John 8:54:
“If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me."
The One whom the Jews claim as their God is JAH, the MOST Holy One of Israel, God MOST High. That same God is the God and Father of Christ Jaheshua.
Peace again.
[Replying to tam in post #30]
Just to add something to the previous post:
When Christ says God, He is referring to His Father. But He is not referring to one part of a three-person God. He is referring to the MOST Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAH. (Psalm 68:4)
From John 8:54:
“If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me."
The One whom the Jews claim as their God is JAH, the MOST Holy One of Israel, God MOST High. That same God is the God and Father of Christ Jaheshua.
Peace again.
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Re: Was Jesus seen?
Post #32[Replying to tam in post #30]
“Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.”
Even if the ‘small still voice’ spirit being declared this to you, he is telling you a lie in this regard. The Son, in reality, was the man who served as the physical vessel of God, whose name is Jesus, in His incarnation.
Biblically speaking, saying ‘the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection‘ is a lie since the declaration of the Son is as follows::tam wrote:A person who has seen (and who knows) the Son has seen (and known) the Father - not because they are the same person - but because the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection.
“Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.”
Even if the ‘small still voice’ spirit being declared this to you, he is telling you a lie in this regard. The Son, in reality, was the man who served as the physical vessel of God, whose name is Jesus, in His incarnation.
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Re: Was Jesus seen?
Post #33Was Jesus in His incarnation not seen OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 1:50 am [Replying to tam in post #30]Biblically speaking, saying ‘the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection‘ is a lie since the declaration of the Son is as follows::tam wrote:A person who has seen (and who knows) the Son has seen (and known) the Father - not because they are the same person - but because the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection.
“Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.”
Even if the ‘small still voice’ spirit being declared this to you, he is telling you a lie in this regard. The Son, in reality, was the man who served as the physical vessel of God, whose name is Jesus, in His incarnation.
Mat 1:25 but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.
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Re: Was Jesus seen?
Post #34Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:09 amWas Jesus in His incarnation not seen OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 1:50 am [Replying to tam in post #30]Biblically speaking, saying ‘the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection‘ is a lie since the declaration of the Son is as follows::tam wrote:A person who has seen (and who knows) the Son has seen (and known) the Father - not because they are the same person - but because the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection.
“Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.”
Even if the ‘small still voice’ spirit being declared this to you, he is telling you a lie in this regard. The Son, in reality, was the man who served as the physical vessel of God, whose name is Jesus, in His incarnation.
No, Capbook! The Son of God, per se, was the one seen, not the Spirit and Life that was in him, who is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Almighty God.
Jesus, per se, or Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father is the name of the Almighty God. The Son was the man who served as the physical vessel of God in His incarnation.Mat 1:25 but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.
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Re: Was Jesus seen?
Post #35Why this verse states "Jesus" was found alone, not the Son of God supposedly written or mentioned to prove you're correct?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:21 amCapbook wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:09 amWas Jesus in His incarnation not seen OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 1:50 am [Replying to tam in post #30]Biblically speaking, saying ‘the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection‘ is a lie since the declaration of the Son is as follows::tam wrote:A person who has seen (and who knows) the Son has seen (and known) the Father - not because they are the same person - but because the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection.
“Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.”
Even if the ‘small still voice’ spirit being declared this to you, he is telling you a lie in this regard. The Son, in reality, was the man who served as the physical vessel of God, whose name is Jesus, in His incarnation.
No, Capbook! The Son of God, per se, was the one seen, not the Spirit and Life that was in him, who is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Almighty God.
Jesus, per se, or Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father is the name of the Almighty God. The Son was the man who served as the physical vessel of God in His incarnation.Mat 1:25 but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.
As you quote Bible verses OneJack, do you agree or dis-agree with what you quote?
Luk 9:36 And when the voice had spoken, Jesus was found alone. And they kept silent, and reported to no one in those days any of the things which they had seen.
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Re: Was Jesus seen?
Post #36It’s because the name of the Almighty, which is Jesus, was given to the Son of God. Didn’t Luke refer to the man born of Mary with his ‘Jesus was found alone?’Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:42 amWhy this verse states "Jesus" was found alone, not the Son of God supposedly written or mentioned to prove you're correct?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:21 amCapbook wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:09 amWas Jesus in His incarnation not seen OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 1:50 am [Replying to tam in post #30]Biblically speaking, saying ‘the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection‘ is a lie since the declaration of the Son is as follows::tam wrote:A person who has seen (and who knows) the Son has seen (and known) the Father - not because they are the same person - but because the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection.
“Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.”
Even if the ‘small still voice’ spirit being declared this to you, he is telling you a lie in this regard. The Son, in reality, was the man who served as the physical vessel of God, whose name is Jesus, in His incarnation.
No, Capbook! The Son of God, per se, was the one seen, not the Spirit and Life that was in him, who is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Almighty God.
Jesus, per se, or Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father is the name of the Almighty God. The Son was the man who served as the physical vessel of God in His incarnation.Mat 1:25 but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.
As you quote Bible verses OneJack, do you agree or dis-agree with what you quote?
Luk 9:36 And when the voice had spoken, Jesus was found alone. And they kept silent, and reported to no one in those days any of the things which they had seen.
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Re: Was Jesus seen?
Post #38Yes, then why Luke write "Jesus" not Son of God to support you OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 8:18 amIt’s because the name of the Almighty, which is Jesus, was given to the Son of God. Didn’t Luke refer to the man born of Mary with his ‘Jesus was found alone?’Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:42 amWhy this verse states "Jesus" was found alone, not the Son of God supposedly written or mentioned to prove you're correct?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:21 amCapbook wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:09 amWas Jesus in His incarnation not seen OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 1:50 am [Replying to tam in post #30]
Biblically speaking, saying ‘the Son is the living image of His Father, the perfect image and reflection‘ is a lie since the declaration of the Son is as follows::
“Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.”
Even if the ‘small still voice’ spirit being declared this to you, he is telling you a lie in this regard. The Son, in reality, was the man who served as the physical vessel of God, whose name is Jesus, in His incarnation.
No, Capbook! The Son of God, per se, was the one seen, not the Spirit and Life that was in him, who is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Almighty God.
Jesus, per se, or Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father is the name of the Almighty God. The Son was the man who served as the physical vessel of God in His incarnation.Mat 1:25 but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.
As you quote Bible verses OneJack, do you agree or dis-agree with what you quote?
Luk 9:36 And when the voice had spoken, Jesus was found alone. And they kept silent, and reported to no one in those days any of the things which they had seen.
By the way, you missed to mentioned the forever name of the Father, ‘יהוה. Why?
Exo 3:15 And Elohim said further to Mosheh, “Thus you are to say to the children of Yisra’ěl, ‘יהוה Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Aḇraham, the Elohim of Yitsḥaq, and the Elohim of Ya‛aqoḇ, has sent me to you. This is My Name forever, and this is My remembrance to all generations.’
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Re: Was Jesus seen?
Post #40Jesus has His own name in every language, Capbook. I’m sure you’re not a Hebrew, are you?Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 5:23 amYes, then why Luke write "Jesus" not Son of God to support you OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 8:18 amIt’s because the name of the Almighty, which is Jesus, was given to the Son of God. Didn’t Luke refer to the man born of Mary with his ‘Jesus was found alone?’Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:42 amWhy this verse states "Jesus" was found alone, not the Son of God supposedly written or mentioned to prove you're correct?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 3:21 am
No, Capbook! The Son of God, per se, was the one seen, not the Spirit and Life that was in him, who is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Almighty God.
Jesus, per se, or Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father is the name of the Almighty God. The Son was the man who served as the physical vessel of God in His incarnation.Mat 1:25 but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.
As you quote Bible verses OneJack, do you agree or dis-agree with what you quote?
Luk 9:36 And when the voice had spoken, Jesus was found alone. And they kept silent, and reported to no one in those days any of the things which they had seen.
By the way, you missed to mentioned the forever name of the Father, ‘יהוה. Why?
Exo 3:15 And Elohim said further to Mosheh, “Thus you are to say to the children of Yisra’ěl, ‘יהוה Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Aḇraham, the Elohim of Yitsḥaq, and the Elohim of Ya‛aqoḇ, has sent me to you. This is My Name forever, and this is My remembrance to all generations.’

