Do you believe that all scripture really "God breathed&

[polonius]

2 Timothy 3:16-17New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

16 All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 so that everyone who belongs to God may be proficient, equipped for every good work.

If scripture is indeed authored by God, does God make occasional errors?

A Biblical fundamentalist will frequently try to prove what they want someone to believe by quoting (at least their interpretation) of a scripture passage, and hence not consider the fact that that scripture itself may be in error.

But don't scriptural contradictions prove that not all scripture is divinely inspired (or God-breathed)?:?

[polonius]

The Levitical priesthood began with Aaron, the older brother of Moses (Exodus 28:1–3). Aaron’s descendants served as the priests in Israel, ministering in the tabernacle and, later, the temple, primarily as mediators between man and God. The Levitical priests bore the responsibility of offering the sacrifices required by the Mosaic Law. Some of the Levitical priests in the Bible are Ezra; Eli; and Zechariah, the father of John the Baptist.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Levitical-priesthood.html

Judah. The tribe of kings, and the most preeminent of the 12 tribes in the biblical narrative. Judah “prevailed over his brothers,� (1 Chronicles 5:2), and the tribe’s territory included the city of Jerusalem and the holy temple. King David was part of this tribe, and his royal line ruled in Jerusalem from around 1,000 BC until the city fell to Babylonian forces in 586 BC. Jerusalem was the capital of Israel and the capital of the Southern Kingdom after the nation divided. Jesus is of the tribe of Judah (Matthew 1:1–2). Notable tribesmen: Jesus, David, Mary, Solomon, Caleb
https://blog.logos.com/2013/03/what-are ... d-out-now/

The Tribe of Levi is one of the tribes of Israel, traditionally descended from Levi, son of Jacob, or high priest of the Israelites. Moses and his brother, Aaron, were both descendants of the Tribe of Levi.
Tribe of Levi - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Levi


The Book of Samuel describes God's repudiation of a monarchic line arising from the northern Tribe of Benjamin due to the sinfulness of King Saul, which was then bestowed onto the Tribe of Judah for all time in the person of King David.
Tribe of Judah - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Judah

[polonius]

The Levitical priesthood began with Aaron, the older brother of Moses (Exodus 28:1–3). Aaron’s descendants served as the priests in Israel

New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

Luke 1:
5 In the days of King Herod of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly order of Abijah. His wife was a descendant of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth

Said to Mary "36 And now, your relative [ suggenes, Strong G4773, of the same kin, akin to, related by blood ] Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son; and this is the sixth month for her who was said to be barren."

[JehovahsWitness]

Sons and daughters of Aaron are not sons and daughters of David.

On that we can agree.

Now, can you explain in English words in a complete sentence what that has to do with which tribe Mary was from? Hopefully explaining how Elizabeth being a "relative" of Mary has an impact on Jesus being a descendent of Judah.

Are you suggesting the only way to be "related" to someone is being of the same tribe?

[polonius]

polonius.advice wrote:

RESPONSE: Please reread Luke 1. Mary's blood-relative Elizabeth was a daughter of Aaron (as were Levites). [...] Nor would her blood-relatives be.


JW's

I read it very carefully and could not find the word "blood" anywhere in the passage.

RESPONSE: Perhaps you should consult the original koine Greek translation.
suggenhs suggenEs - G4773 a_ Nom Sg f TOGETHER-generated relative
Strong’s 4773 www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction ... ggenes.htm
1.
Strong's #4773: suggenes (pronounced soong-ghen-ace'). from 4862 and 1085; a relative (by blood); by extension, a fellow countryman:--cousin, kin(-sfolk, ...
G4773 - syggenēs - Strong's Greek Lexicon

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 44 by polonius.advice]

Please re-read it yourself.

And maybe re-read your reference

Strong's #4773: suggenes (pronounced soong-ghen-ace'). from 4862 and 1085; a relative (by blood); by extension, a fellow countryman:--cousin, kin(-sfolk, ...
G4773 - syggenēs - Strong's Greek Lexicon

[polonius]

Sons and daughters of Aaron are not sons and daughters of David.

On that we can agree.

Now, can you explain in English words in a complete sentence what that has to do with which tribe Mary was from? Hopefully explaining how Elizabeth being a "relative" of Mary has an impact on Jesus being a descendent of Judah.

Are you suggesting the only way to be "related" to someone is being of the same tribe?

RESPONSE: Mary was a blood-relative (sunngenes) of Elizabeth who was a "daughter of Aaron" (see Luke 1). Hence Mary too was a daughter of Arron (ie same geneology)

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 46 by polonius.advice]

Please re-read the reference you yourself provided. Are you suggesting the word "relative" HAS to imply by blood and that there are no other options?

[polonius]

[Replying to post 44 by polonius.advice]

Please re-read it yourself. Do you see the word "blood" anywhere in the scripture?

RESPONSE: Yes. I find it in correct translations of the word sunngenes "blood relative" the original koine Greek version. Try consulting a Greek interlinear translation of the New Testament online.

[polonius]

[Replying to post 46 by polonius.advice]

Please re-read the reference you yourself provided. Are you suggesting the word "relative" HAS to imply by blood and that there are no other options?

RESPONSE: I'm going by the primary translation in the koine Greek originals.

I use the primary translation of the term.

[bluethread]

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/5691-elkanah

According to the genealogical tables, Elkanah was, a Levite, a fact otherwise not mentioned in the books of Samuel. The fact that Elkanah, a Levite, was denominated an Ephraimite is analogous to the designation of a Levite belonging to Judah (Judges xvii. 7).

The Tribe of Levi is one of the tribes of Israel, traditionally descended from Levi, son of Jacob, or high priest of the Israelites. Moses and his brother, Aaron, were both descendants of the Tribe of Levi.

Thank you for clarification. Since, Myriam was not a Levite, as I will address below, this is not a concern in the case of Yeshua. Regarding inheritance, let me ask you about Avraham's complaint. Gen. 15:2-3 "And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus? And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir." Though an natural heir was promised, the clear implication is that Eliezer of Damascus would inherit.

Re: Posts 41 & 42

Elizabeth was the daughter of a Cohen, however, her mother did not have to be. A Cohen can marry any Levite. The daughter of a Levite, even the daughter of a Cohen, is free to marry someone from any tribe. Therefore, even though Elizabeth was a daughter of Aharon, her mother need not be, and, in that case her aunt(Myriam's mother) married Heli of Yehudah. Even if her mother was a daughter of Aharon, that marriage would still be acceptable. Therefore, Miriam was not a daughter of Aharon, but a daughter of Yehudah, even though her cousin Elizabeth was a daughter of Aharon.

Strong 4773 Definition
1. of the same kin, akin to, related by blood
2. in a wider sense, of the same nation, a fellow countryman